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Does woke mean shoehorned or pandering? I feel like “woke” media is labeled as such because of its fundamental socially progressive ideals, and those negative connotations are added by opponents to try and tear down media that’s been designated “woke”
Compared to all the other movies, games and other media that is given the “woke” moniker, Barbie was very firmly “woke”
It spoke directly about how the US and world is a male-dominated patriarchy, and spent the last act going explicitly over in great detail the negatives for women in their gender roles, especially when dealing with men and male partners.
If any other show had even one of the major plot points or lines from this movie, it would be labeled “woke.”
No. Woke just means being aware of other people's situation. I'm the modern sense it means understanding inequality.
"Woke" is about shoehorning in extreme progressive political "traits". Whether that's in preaching the ideology, acting it out (turning white characters black, or adding extended lgbt scenes, etc), and so on. If you watched the barbie movie, what people mean by "woke" is mattel's behavior in the movie. In the movie, mattel's behavior is presented as "performative feminism" that's not genuine, but done for sales and PR/branding. The movie drags mattel hard for this and jabs at it several times. Mattel in the movie is "woke".
Sasha, at the beginning of the film, is 'woke'. She literally calls Barbie a fascist, and later "white savior". Her character is "woke" but realizes how harmful that is.
People saying Barbie is woke is baffling, because a large part of the movie is criticizing woke stuff.
Ok now this one is bassed.
"Does woke mean shoehorned or pandering?"
A little bit of both actually. And yeah, its true what some of you say, its mostly used to describe things we dont like but at the same time giving a reason as to why is that. And the reason being that the piece of media sacrifices a part of its original meaning, character development, setting, dialogue and overall quality, just for the sake of being, or most acuratelly said, apearing diverse while the piece of media itself is about an entirelly diferent mater all togheter. This is mostly done to appeal to the masses, but not those that like to see diversity, its those characters thtat they represent that they think its gonna appeal to that particular demografic be it race, sex or identity. What i mean is that they think they are gonna appeal to lgbt+ people if they insert a character that its what the writers/producers think an lgbt+ person looks and behaves like (i.e. a stereotype or anti-stereotype if they have some awareness)
Barbie is not woke since from the begining it presented itself as to be tackling on sexism, and it was consistent about it from begining to end and did not shoehorn any other things to apeal to other demografics but women in general, and it also helps a lot if you know that the Barbie brand its obviusly for girls, so of course the movie its gonna be for and about women.
An example of a woke movie that tackles similar isues and its actually woke its Black Christmas, and while its main theme from begining to end is sexism and toxic masculinity, its not very well made since the firsr 4/5ts of the movie where kinda like a college sesion on institutionalized sexism and the last bit was like the actual movie that you where expecting. And while at first after you view it you are kinda like yeah this was cool and worked, after some time you realize that no it doesnt, the little there is of horror throught the cathedric part try to justify the twist at the end, and while im not gonna spoil it, it kindda takes away from the original message it was going for, it doesnt contradict it, it just takes credibility away from it.
So no barbie is not woke imho but you can disagree. In the end i could be wrong.
Were did you get your understanding of what woke means?
That is on media outside the USA since my mother thongue is not english and it has another word in it that means the same thing, no im not telling you which one it is. Just telling you about the fact that ther are cultures outside the USA that give diferent meanning on words. And yeah i kow that sounds like im telling you to be WOKE about multiculturalism, and i am (lol) but that word wasnt what i was originaly arguing about, it was about woke-washing amd woke capitalism on media.
I don't get why people downvote you when you are explaining very well what you mean
Because they whabt to be right by writhing me off as their enemy even thought im not.
But that's the thing, there's nothing to be right about! You are just explaining yourself! I mean how sick do they have to be to downvote with no reason
Exactly