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Ron DeSantis’ False claim that some states allow ‘post-birth’ abortions. None do.
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That is very true and explains a lot.
I do wonder what the ring-wing viewers think a post-birth abortion is. Because unless I'm missing some context that redefines "post-birth" that's just regular murder. And I'm still struggling to wrap my head around the warped-ass mindset you'd need to think your political opponents are OK with just yeeting infants straight to the morgue.
Post-birth abortion is letting them grow up to experience a school shooting.
Sending our babies straight TO God.
Unless they're gay, then they go to the other place™
Rainbow Fun Land!
No, you got it right. The right is trying to say that democrats are all baby murderers, and they're using the "post-birth abortion" phrase to act like "Look, this is what they call it, to pretend to themselves it's not actually murder. But we right-thinking republicans all know it's really murder" and the viewers goes "Wow, those baby-murdering democrats can even convince themselves they're not committing murder!" instead what they should REALLY be thinking which is "wait, are they really all murdering babies? Like really?"
Conservatives are people who love to be lied to. They think dishonesty is virtue and honesty is a vice. That's why we have qtards, pizzatards, birthertards, sandyhooktards, startthestealtards etc.
Worse, they don't believe in virtue and vice. They believe that "Who said it" is more important than what was said, Trump and Obama could say the same exact factual thing, but they'd only agree with Trump.
My cousin thinks that abortion at any stage is literally murdering babies (used that phrase before) so there's that.
And a college friend of mine said that to her, the moment a sperm and egg come together you have something indistinguishable from a baby with a "soul" (word I had used to bring up the topic) and everything. Clearing up the obvious BS is one thing, but we also need to hold that line of thinking to account
Yeah, that level of combining science and religion is nuts to me. Like, at what point does the indescribable, intangible soul attach to the cell. Is it when the sperm penetrates the egg? Or is it when the first phase of mitosis occurs? Or what? And are there a million souls swimming along, each one following a sperm, waiting for their chance to latch on to a fertilized egg? Or maybe one soul per egg? Or maybe God knows when an egg will be fertilized, and he only dispatches one soul when it happens, but in that case he should know when a fertilized egg isn't going to be born, and not put a soul in that fetus, right? When they try to get really specific about the rules of their make believe club, it starts sounding very silly. But then you get hit with the "we aren't supposed to know his plan/the Lord works in mysterious ways" and that means you're not allowed to think about it with the brain God gave you any more.
Obviously, that term is an impossible thing. If they used the real term, "infanticide", everybody would recognize the lie immediately.
I work in hospice, and unfortunately many elderly households and nursing homes have people parked in front of Fox "News."
Last year there was a patient in a nursing home I visited who was crying when I got there. She was extremely distressed, watching FN. She was telling me about all the post birth abortions that democrats were having, "just to kill all those innocent babies." I told her that wasn't a thing. She proceeded to tell me that she watched an interview with a Dr on Fox who stated that he used to do them, but it weighed too heavily on him so he stopped. She said that after delivering the full term baby, he would hold and comfort the baby while discussing options with the parents on how to "abort" it.
Whatever the interview actually was, I can not say. But if a viewer got that message from something they aired then Fox needed to be clearer in their messages. In any case, they're toying with the mental health and wellbeing of the vulnerable elderly for their own benefit, which (among many other reasons) makes them evil.
I'm not sure if it's still allowed but when a baby was delivered that requires massive medical intervention to keep them alive, the parents had the option to not medically intervene and go through the anguish of attempting to save a non-viable baby. Like a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate).
So it's not an abortion because the baby was delivered, and it's not murder because nobody is actively killing it. It's a tough call any parent would have to make at that moment. Some malformations are fatal and not known until post delivery, or delivery trauma itself. It sucks.
They whole heartedly believe that abortion is baby-killing and people who support the option are therefore enthusiastic about “killing babies”, plus all sorts of bizarre things like doctors sell the parts, fetuses are burned in incinerators to generate electricity, democrats worship Satan and so on… so, it’s very easy to get someone who thinks things like that to believe in wetf “post birth abortion” would be.
New hospital floor layout when?
Upper floor:
Room equipped to handle birthing
Middle floor:
Nursery station where newborns are kept for a calm and sterile environment to ensure they stay healthy
Lower floor:
Giant freezer, similar layout as the middle floor, just less necessary to keep it sterile or anything. Has the advantage that you can stack containers and save space
/s, though I wonder how many people would believe it if they were told this was planned...
From my understanding, they think a post-birth abortion happens when an abortion isn't successful and a live baby is born. Then the "liberal woke doctor" kills the baby and calls it a post-birth abortion.
Obviously, this never happens. Of course, the point isn't to highlight something that actually happens, but to demonize the left regardless of any facts or truth. They'll claim that the left is so abhorrent that we kill newborn babies. They don't care they we aren't actually killing newborn babies. The mere accusation is enough for them.