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[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (21 children)

We currently grow enough plants to feed 15B people, but we feed that to the animals instead.

a lot of the plant matter fed to animals is parts of plants we can't or won't eat.

and a lot of the land used isn't crop land, but grazing land

and they're is no reason to believe the land would ever be rewilded.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

they don't disappear. the media doesn't cover them.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

this, too, is not proof. do you have any animal cognition papers that show cows understand that they might die?

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it's not enough evidence. we still need proof they understand personal mortality.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

that's not evidence of understanding personal mortality.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

i'm not equal with animals. this is just more dehumanization.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that is a speciesist take

speciesism is rational. i wouldn't ask an elephant to engage in a discussion on lemmy.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (6 children)

non-human animals feel pain and don’t want to die.

we don't know that any non-human animal understands personal mortality, so we need to clear up an ambiguity in your syntax there. the don't even know if they know they colud die. if you don't know you could want something, to say that you don't want it is almost tautological. we can't say teher is any evidence they want not to die, though.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

that's a strawman. i'm raising one possible explanation that you hadn't even considered (much less explored), and there are likely an infinite number of them.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

you aren't controlling for every possible alternative. for instance, a less media saturated culture with fewer depictions of anthropomorphism might not have this issue. you're simply choosing to believe it's an inherent problem with the process.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (5 children)

you kind of making a leap of logic though. there may be other explanations for why slaughterhouse workers experience psychological distress. it could be socioeconomic. it may be some other conditioning. your explanation amounts to post hoc ergo propter hoc

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sick of moderation on some of the bigger instances and communities, I thought we could try hosting here, where I of course will only ever make the most correct moderation decisions.

everyone have a good laugh?

I'll add mods but not yet. I'll clarify rules as it becomes necessary.

I will remain the bdfl until db0 decides my incompetence is a detriment to his instance.

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