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[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

You are right, I buy organic as often as I can to not support the spraying of poison. And I usually eat whole grains, as you suggested, as it is much healthier.

we add tons of god knows what chemicals

This ticks #9 of the Vegan Bullshit Bingo. I'm from Europe and our basic organic oatmilk comes with stuff made from algue, seeds and plant oils. This is used everywhere in foodprocessing. Look it up, no dangerous "chemicals" to be found. There are brands that add sugar and artificial flavor, sure. Udders milk has about 5% sugar (lactose) and oat milk usually doesn't transcends this.

There is (almost) no baby killing going on

Half of the newborns are male and killed for veal, no? And the females get to be raised, milked and killed after a couple of years, so McDonald's can sell you cheap beef burgers.

most cows would get an udder infection if not molken regularly

Vegan Bullshit Bingo #17: Cows need to be milked
We did that to them by breeding them like that. That's Bullshit Bingo #32.

Also, of you don't want to grow so much oat and soy because it destroys ecosystems and rainforests (#2), don't feed animals, feed people! We're losing like 80% of the calories by giving it to cows. Here is a graph from the BBC

I live like 200 meters away from a dairy farm, no shit. :)

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

soy ... destroys ecosystems and rainforests (#2), don't feed animals, feed people!

the vast majority ( over 80% ) of soy is pressed for oil. the byproduct of that process is called soycake or soy meal, and it would be industrial waste if we didn't feed it to livestock. that's a conservation of resources.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It's not a byproduct. 80% of global soy is grown to feed animals.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know where you got your stats, but according to the fao 17% of the weight of the global soy crop becomes oil, but a soybean is only about 20% oil in total. that means some 85% of the crop is pressed for oil. that byproduct being fed to livestock is a benefit.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think I made by point and presented enough sources. I'm obviously not going to change your mind at this time.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago

have a nice day

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