ComradePenguin

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[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Another thing, I remember when I used to live in a house with a cat and a lot of rodents. Our traps killed a couple a week and our cat killed probably not far from a thousand rodents and birds. We could have protected our house more from animals, and we could have had the cat indoors. Somehow cats killing animals is socially accepted, the same goes for rodents in your house.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Exactly this, I am not trying to say that it is not allowed to have the opinion that this was distasteful. I just find it interesting how hard people judge this person. There are infinitely amounts of cognitive dissonance we all live with every day. It's not really to judge people for eating meat, it's more to point our that from a logical standpoint this person actually did not do something much more unethical. Kinda like the thing with the female politician who shot her dog. Which I personally feel is insane and a terrible thing to do, but at the same time dogs are kinda like pigs, and we kill them all the time just because we prefer pig meat over lentils, beans, rice etc.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

He should not have. But we kill animals all the time simply for eating meat, because we think that tastes a bit better. We don't need to inflict suffering on animals for years, we can abstain from meat. How are we more moral? Just because we outsource the killing? I so not condone his actions, just point out that we are not better.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 days ago

Of course he should not have done this. What I am saying is that eating meat when we clearly don't need to is also unnecessary killing. So he killed an animal for no good reason, and we kinda do the same. We have more ethical foods available for us, but we like the taste of meat, and don't care enough about their suffering. Except for those that abstain from meat.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not about morals that the seagulls can understand. It is not about teaching something. He acted like a moron and completely disproportionately. However it's not that much unethical than killing for meat, when we don't need to eat meat.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 days ago

I know what you mean, it's disproportionate as hell. I am just saying that we aren't much better morally than him. Unless we abstain from meat.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago (24 children)

What he did was wrong, a bit because of the animal and a lot because of the spectators. It did not suffer, it was quick. It does however feel a bit like cognitive dissonance to strongly disapprove of his actions, while we systematically without any good reason eat animals and have them in small confined areas for optimal meat production per sqm. Vegans and vegetarians however, they can judge him all they want 😉 I am not one of them

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

The video was interesting, clearly American manufacturing is fucked 😂 He had a couple of sinophobic moments for sure. I loved the part in which he got Chinese chainmail from "India". Not ordering it from China when he could not replace it was a revealing choice.

I get his mission, but it just so incredibly clearly shows how capitalism is a shitty system and that little "invest in local manufacturing even if less profits" speech seems more like a selling point than inspirational.

I read that this thing costs 75$, which is ridiculous. I would like to see the actual costs, can't imagine it being near that price. If it is, then what a shitty deal. He understands one thing though, his IP does not mean shit, if someone can produce something good enough or equally good for 1/3 the price.

China really is beating capitalists at their own game 😂

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Wow, looks fantastic. It being open source as well is really exciting

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh, I am very aware of it being like death. My point is that we were never alive at all. We have no consciousness because of determinism, we follow a path that cannot be changed. That's why teleportation is not a problem from a deterministic atheist standpoint.

However I do fully acknowledge that I can not live like that. I live as if I have free will, because that is the easiest and most comfortable way to live. Beside nature / nurture arguments of course, I don't dismiss those.

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

I don't get this either, they just heat the water

[–] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

You should check out the movie Hardcore Henry 😉

 

Reminder: If this is unpopular, then upvote!

Every argument against socialism can be dismantled and solved somehow. It just requires that you dream, imagine a better world. That you are a little idealistic and optimistic.

If you think it would reduce innovation: State funded startups, requirement is that the company is democratically controlled by the employees, and that the employees own the company, or that the state owns 49% of it. Or some other split between state, founder and employees.

If you think this is a bad idea, then maybe you can imagine something else? Or some middle ground between today's brutal capitalist solution and the thing I proposed?

People would just use up all the resources even if they don't need it. Okay, then we limit the consumption per person. Or we still have some money, and you buy the luxuries with that money. So that people still have to prioritize.

Also, if you think a planned economy is bad, what would you call the logistics and planning of Amazon, or even Temu (Just the logistics and planning part, not quality)? It is possible to plan for needs. You just start with making the basic services free, and gradually adds more options of products and services. You track trends in consumption and increase or decrease based on demand.

Socialism or communism isn't a finished ideology, we don't have a template. Establishing systems would take creativity and thorough planning. So yours and everyone else's imagination would shape that future.

 
 

I have always been a leftie, and sympathetic to socialism.

I live in a social democratic nordic country. Capitalism is the economic system.

I have thought that I should act like an economically rational entity, and make good financial decisions. Regardless of my beliefs.

I have bought an apartment with my wife, and we have started invested a significant portion in index funds to prepare for retirement in the future.

We both work ethical jobs that contribute positively to society. This was a requirement for the both of us.

Our rationalisation is that we should not sacrifice our own lives that significantly, but instead be politically active, donate a significant amount of money to the socialist party and educate people. We can contribute to change, but by not participating in the capitalist economy, we will hurt ourselves in the long run, without actually changing anything.

We have no plans of becoming "rich" by our country's standard. But the end goal is living off the pension from the government and our investments in the future.

I just feel that it is a contradictory way of living life, but we at least try to support socialist causes a lot more financially.

 
 
 

Yes, I know there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

I still need material gods and services. How can I make the necessary purchases more ethical?

Edit: I live in Northern Europe, if that matters

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