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The Palestinian Health Ministry said Israeli forces opened fire inside the wards of the Ibn Sina Hospital in the town of Jenin. The ministry condemned the raid and called on the international community to pressure Israel’s military to halt such operations in hospitals. A hospital spokesperson said there was no exchange of fire, indicating that it was a targeted killing.

Footage said to be security camera video from the hospital that circulated on social media showed about a dozen undercover forces, most of them armed, dressed as women with Muslim headscarves or hospital staff in scrubs or white doctor’s coats. One in a surgical mask carried a rifle in one arm and a folded wheelchair in the other. The forces were seen patting down one man who kneeled against a wall, his arms raised.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If they can do these pinpoint operations, maybe they should stop bombing the fuck out of the entirety of Gaza?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but people in Gaza have guns and they fight back so that's scary.

These were three unarmed men in a hospital so the brave IDF had the courage to break several laws of war by disguising as civilians and executing them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Sure, what's a few more international laws broken? But my point was, if they were going to commit war crimes anyway, maybe they could have done it like this instead of killing 10,000 children.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, my first reaction was "at least it wasn't civilians this time." Whole thing is fucked up but it's better than a 2,000 pound bomb on the hospital.

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[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've seen this article in several places. This particular article states that at least one of the guys was armed with a pistol, while neglecting to detail the others. Nowhere did I read that there "were three unarmed men". Do you have a source, please?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

From the article:

A hospital spokesperson said there was no exchange of fire, indicating that it was a targeted killing.

The biggest tell is that they executed the dude lying on the hospital bed.

There is absolutely no way for NSFL: the hospital bed bullet hole to exist other than the IDF walking up to him point blank, putting the barrel on his temple and pulling the trigger.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is running an operation in a controlled situation in an area where they already have security control/cooperation. This is three terrorists. Hamas in Gaza is in the 10s of thousands, with a tunnel network, boobytraps, and decades of preparation. It's out of touch with reality to suggest that they are equivalent.

A better question if you ask me is that if they could carry out this operation, why couldn't they capture them and bring them to trial?

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is three terrorists.

One being a Hamas commander and the other two being members of Islamic Jihad, also a terrorist organization. At least one of them had a gun with him.

The IDF's claim is that the three were involved in a transfer of weapons and were planning another Oct 7th style terrorist attack.

Now if we dismiss IDF's claim as "propaganda", sure one can say "boo Israel bad, perfidy!!" but Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists hiding as civilian patients in a hospital is pure moral bankruptcy no matter whether the above accusations are true or false, because they know fully well that their presence is endangering every other patient there.

That said, I'd also have preferred if the IDF detained them for questioning instead, they could have extract so much valuable intel on the hostages and the tunnels instead.

Also important to add: only the bedding got damaged and not a single civilian was harmed in the whole operation.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There must have been a meeting where someone said "let's disguise as women and medics to assassinate people in a hospital...

And everyone said "great idea!".

This is so cartoonishly stupid it'd be hillarious if it wasn't so sad.

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[–] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These people and whoever organized this needs to be be tried in the Hague. This is straight up a war crime.

[–] afunkysongaday@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Interestingly, the commentary on Article 85 of the Third Geneva Convention includes “the wearing of civilian clothing by members of the armed forces for purposes of disguise” as an example of a war crim

Bonus points because guess where I read that?

https://en.idi.org.il/media/6191/combatants_dressed_as_civilians.pdf

It seems like some things just don't change.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is the most moral army in the world committing war crimes? Does that make them more or less moral?

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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If genocide ever comes to the US again then I believe that "storming a hospital" will certainly be part of it.

[–] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 17 points 1 year ago

Pathetic. This is pure terrorism.

Hamas terrorism doesn't justify Israel/USA terrorism. Both are terrorists.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I agree I'd also have preferred if they used the more accurate word "terrorists" instead but yes, Hamas and Islamic Jihad confirmed it (source: AlJazeera article):

Hamas confirmed that Jalamneh was one of its members. The Jenin Brigade, which includes a number of Palestinian armed resistance groups, said in a statement that two of the three men were members of Islamic Jihad.

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[–] Norgoroth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Jeez, these guys really messed up. They didn't kill all the babies in the hospital too. Their command will surely be disappointed.

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