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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 165 points 2 years ago (13 children)

SovCits are all like this: they want the benefits of living in our society but they don't want to pay any of the costs. They want to drive on the roads, but not pay taxes or vehicle registration. They want utilities like electricity and water, but not pay the bills. They think they're entitled to stuff without cost. They don't even want to pay their child support.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

SovCits think words have an inherent magical power and knowing the right words gives them more power than if some other rando person. Their entitlement is from them thinking they have outsmarted the system. They are what dumb people think smart people act like.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

I swear SovCits are an embedded cargo cult.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

SovCits have been who boomers were really talking about when they said "millennials"?

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago

“Sovereign citizen” is a really complicated way to say freeloader..

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, to be fair, I don't want to pay any of that either. If I could get away with not paying anything while getting all the benefits of paying, then I would, but im not an absolute moron so I pay my taxes and bills.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't know, maybe I'm a weirdo, but I don't actually want stuff for nothing. If I'm getting something from you, I want you to get something in return that makes it worth your while. I don't want you to rip me off, but I want you to be able to live off of what you provide me and others. Of course, I also want to be able to earn enough doing what I do to be able to afford to pay you for what you do.

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[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Maybe what they’ve wanted this whole time is jail. Even free food and housing.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

they want the benefits of living in our society but they don’t want to pay any of the costs

Same tbh, at least in the sense of wanting to be allowed to exist by default.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The difference is that we understand that real change needs to be ushered in for that to happen, while they just bury their heads in the sand and pretend it already did.

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[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 88 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Simple answer, but they won't like it.

Autopay.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Live in a tent down by the river and stock up on batteries.

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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 68 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These sovereign citizens are really thinking they found some sort of glitch in the system. “I dOnt rEcoGnize tHe goVERmEnT anD sOcieTY, I dIdnT siGn No soCiaL cOnTrAct buT I dO like yaLls LEctriCiTY”

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is that libertarian mindset to a t.

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Solar panels mostly, it's viable but expensive, hope your job pays well!

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[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 55 points 2 years ago (63 children)

SovCits are a symptom of the breakdown of the social contract, not one of the causes.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's more a symptom of village idiots finding each other on the web and convincing themselves that they are not idiots. Its a feature of an interconnected world.

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[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They have the morality of an atomized corporation. Always trying to externalise costs to the rest of the planet. All that matters is their own short term needs.

It's like a cargo cult of late stage capitalism.

[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's rooted in white supremacy and anti-Semitism. They are the ones breaking the social contract.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Definitely not a cause. For a while they were a pain in the ass. Courts and lawyers didn't know how to deal with them and they would keep coming back and back with appeals and collateral actions. Now there's a whole playbook for disposing of their bullshit, doesn't jam things up anymore.

It was originally a mail order scam targeting poor, uneducated people who were charged with crimes, desperate to believe any promise of help.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Or maybe they never got past the stage of development where they understand that other people exist.

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[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm noticing a common theme with the "sovereign citizens" where they can't for the life of them look at what they're typing or use the backspace key

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They don't recognize the backspace keys authority.

[–] ElectricCattleman@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH THE BACKSPACE KEY

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 48 points 2 years ago (8 children)

while keeping the light son

seems a little racist

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 35 points 2 years ago

It's easy. Strip the wires before and after your electric meter, and attach jumper cables to either side.

It's safe to do this with no protective equipment, just be sure to shout "I do not understand your intent" at the electricity first. That way it will be unable to fry you.

[–] JaneTheMotherfucker@leminal.space 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sovereign citizens are hilariously entertaining. I love it when they post videos of themselves in court and decide on their own that they "won" because the judge got pissed off and walked away after dismissing everyone.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Entertaining, yes.. until you live next to one and they decide that, for example, your backyard is their dumpster.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You just have to meet them on their crazy level. Make a treaty with them that says something along the lines of "I corporation yourname hereby certify that my neighbor corporation theirname is a freeman of the land in-exchange that our territory boundaries are respected"

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But then they could demand to open an embassy inside my house.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Tell them they can but they will need an international passport, recommend an eBay store that you own. Sell them one.

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago

They would be introduced to my sovereign right to beat their ass.

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[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just use an alternative power source than the power grid. Water, solar, wind, etc.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Homemade nuclear reactor it is, then!

Unrelated but why does the air suddenly taste like metal?

[–] Thrawne@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago

If you can hear the rad you might have a bigger problem than you realize.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Utility companies hate this one trick, which is why they cut you off.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Light some candles

[–] trumpetmouth@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Simple: get rid of the heavy son.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 16 points 2 years ago

I too want to know this one trick.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Build an enormous induction coil under the power lines?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

No contract, no power. Super simple stuff.

How could they twist that?

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