chapotraphouse

I will never forgiven him for sharing my contact info with the DNC

It’s not like I think Clinton or Biden were better options in retrospect. Sanders was a harm reduction vote for Keynesian economics and against neoliberal economics.

This is the kind of post that lemmy users see, with their messy conception of politics and lack of understanding of anything left of liberal, and they end up having no fucking idea what to make of it at all and determine this is an esoteric troll instance.

Good post. Post more like it.

I used to get into fights on the old sub about his shortcomings as a figurehead so mostly feelin kinda vindicated

Bernie was always seen as the least shit-covered kernel of corn in a pile of shit by sufficiently jaded leftists

He maybe could have moved the Overton window to the left for the first time in 75 years if he got elected but wasn't the messiah socdems thought he was.

...by how big of a tankie Bernie has been...

Anybody else taken back by how far left Bernie is on Foreign policy?

(tee hee, nobody read the post just the title)

These are the posts that i come back for, my poor sides

but forever war = forever equal rights.

I mean, if Bernie won in 2016 or 20, he would be a better president than Biden or even better than he is as a Senator right now, because he would owe his position (and reelection chances) to the left donor/activist base. And a bunch of liberals would probably support a 3rd party candidate against him, so even as an incumbent he would probably have big problems with getting reelected. Right now, he is a Senator, if he wants to run again in Vermont he can easily do that and he doesn't need the left base anymore, since he is not running for president ever again.

So instead he can support whatever policy positions he actually wants, OR he is trying to win favor with Biden in exchange for some small policy crumbs in some other area (something that he should know doesn't work with any liberal politicians, but again, I guess he is just old). In both cases, I disagree with him ideologically, but he is an old guy who is probably retiring from politics soon, so whatever. The left should not be too hung up on individuals, remember that politicians are just a tool to implement policy. The really sad thing is that it will be harder and harder for a Sanders-style candidate (someone who wouldn't actually owe his position to big corporations) to even run for the nomination ever again, especially since big money interests kind of figured out they "only" need to outspend left-wing candidates by around 3:1 and they've been very successful in recent elections.

I spend a substantial amount of money, time, sanity going "social" and "all out" for Bernie. To me it was one of those "what did you do?" type moments in history. We tried. We fucking did everything. Only for Bernie to capitulate to the scratched liberals.

Yes Benie was a compromise candidate. He had his flaws. Foriegn policy being the weak point but it seemed like he understood US meddling and it's consequences. Like it would be better for the global south. He seemed at least on the surface to understand what Bibi is and spoke to holding Israel to account.

I like this, it's like a fun treat for people who read the post

~~Naw. It made sense in the moment with what we knew at the time - we live in a society that talks about socialism and communism now in part because a grumpy old man permanently associated the terms in the American psyche with objectively good things like Medicare for All, cracking a hundred years of red scare propaganda that socialism and communism were synonymous with totalitarianism and dictatorship.~~

~~Now unfortunately, all that stuff I'm talking about is in the superstructure, and it's not clear if the American base is capable of creating the conditions for a socialist uprising, but all we can do since none of us are Lenin is to keep banging our drums and keep latching onto every moment we can.~~

Actually never mind we gotta keep riding for Biden yee haw

I don't honestly.

I don't think the term tankie applies for people not on the left. The term you're looking for is dronie. Droneie? Droney...

Equal Rights is when you fight wars forever that ruin other countries, and Bern just couldn't grasp that

Damn red fascists wanting genocide to end on a country that is not LQBTQ friendly

Rare good post.

Voting doesn't really matter so nah

I will only vote for a candidate if I think they can win. I don't want to waste my vote!

I don't think there's much question that he's better than Biden, even now. 99% Hitler isn't enough to get me to vote anymore but it's not really a bad thing.

It got a lot of us here for sure. So there's that.

Forever war = forever human rights lmao

Bernie disappointed me in 2016.

That's why I shaved my head, got a 88 plastered on my forehead, and joined a commune.

I don’t even feel bad about voting for Hilary

I don't regret it, it was my first time dabbling with voter fraud and it thaught me a lot

Bernie? A tankie? /irony, I hope

i never did bc he 'lost' and conceded the primaries in the states preceding mine

no