GOOD, hope they win
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This was always the intention when fascists started manufacturing the whole “trans are pedos” (aka groomers) narrative — to strip their rights away. Trans are the testing ground for authoritarian take over; identical to 1930’s Germany.
The only way you can strip a specific, targeted sub-group of the populations rights away is by making that group of people an enemy; in recent history the only indefensible enemies have been pedos and terrorists (islamic only though, coz Christianity). They lost the red scare trope several decades ago.
Take note. They’ll expand these targeted attacks to all other “others” as soon as they get (or manufacture) the opportunity… It doesn’t matter that the average conservative politician or Christian evangelist is 100x more likely to be a pedo than the average trans person, because they have never, and will never, give a shit about kids.
Man, I’ve been saying pretty much exactly this for fucking YEARS.
People have looked at me funny for a while when I’ve said stuff like that. Lately, people have stopped looking at me funny and started taking the discussion seriously.
On one hand, I’m glad that it doesn’t feel like I’m screaming into the void anymore.
On the other hand… why is it so fucking impossible for humans to acknowledge and react to anything unless it’s staring them right in the goddamn face (conceptually-related sad climate change noises)?
I am with you. And maybe a little bit salty about the majority of people. But then again the rise of fascism really has been staring me in the face for a decade. I am an aid worker focusing on refugees. You can imagine the messages I have gotten. Including the most insane, actually copied race purity propaganda leaflet with notes I got through snail mail. In a weird way, you almost have to respect the effort.
How does the generation from FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!!! go to "yes sir, tell me how to think and what to do while I lick your boots?
I don’t think those are the same generation…?
While trans rights are at least in the US as much or more under fire, in Europe it has also been refugees. On that front, it has gone from "just" criminalizing and harassing that group but also people who somehow are supporting that group. Which is only really relevant to show how far we are in the journey towards fascism in the West.
It is insane enough that I actually have to weekly remind myself that this is reality.
Oh we are repressing refugees too. They just come from central and South America. They're mostly fleeing violent regimes that only exist because of US foreign policy.
I thought so but didn't want to assume too much as I am not in the US. Usually these days global fascists are pretty connected and using the same playbook.
They have successfully managed to further this othering and dehumanizing of refugees to the point where an illegal immigrant is the term that is more commonly used instead of the correct term which is a refugee in colloquial discussion. In legal one, it gets a little bit more complicated but generally people don't even need to be aware of that.
In Germany the Nazi party is quickly taking hold for the first time since WW2
depends how recent your recent history is. within several living generations we had McCarthyism
I'll never understand people's obsession with things others want to do to themselves. Things that have absolutely zero impact to anyone else
I don't understand people who inject their lips or get other fucked up implants but I'm not going to violate their privacy or advocate for laws against them
Most of the chatter against it that I hear now is "parents pushing their kids to be trans" which, yes, that would be shitty but that simply isn't the case. I live in a very trans friendly area of the US. A lot of parents have degendered clothes and toys so it's pretty common to see male children in dresses and/or playing with dolls and female children with short hair and "boy" clothes (sorry I'm having a hard time coming up with an outfit that is quintessential boy). Do you know what the outcome is? Kids wearing clothes they like and playing with toys they like. They're excited about the things they like because they have supportive adults in their life and they're not forced to follow arbitrary societal rules.
Male children playing with dolls doesn't mean they're automatically trans. Parents aren't having super intensive talks about gender reassignment when their female child is playing with trucks or is "more sporty" than other girls. Gender is simply talked about more fluidly and kids are supported in their constantly changing interests.
Nazis love dictating what other people do with their own bodies, always have, always will
Exactly. If you understand the risks or impacts or effects to yourself of whatever it is that you've decided to do (not only speaking about this issue but most things in general), and you've made a calculated choice to do said thing, as long as it doesn't harm me or harm other people, I'm totally cool with it, knock yourself out.
Another current example is the widespread legalization of marijuana. If you're an adult who knows the impacts of smoking pot, and you've decided to do so... as long as your smoke isn't bugging me or other people, then go to town.
Why should I interfere with your decision? You're not hurting anyone else, and you've made an informed choice about the impacts to you. That's ALL that should matter.
I kind of get it for fundamentalist Christians. If you believe in a god who is both a murderous psychopath and practices collective punishment, it makes some kind of sense.
Good. These jackasses have plenty of lawyers on call to fight off malpractice claims and push for debt collection but couldn't spare a few hours to fight a blatantly obvious request to put their patients in danger. Fuck these guys, hope they pay in the millions.
the DA is investigating medical billing fraud, and for some reason they requested info about
people who volunteer for the hospital’s Trans Buddy initiative
It's almost as if he isn't actually investigating medical billing fraud.
What, but that would be fraud?!
Yeah that stood out as super weird.
Good, hope they win. I was supposed to have a procedure at Vanderbilt and this whole thing has really made me second guess how much I trust them, despite not living in Tennessee.
Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti will be ~~disbarred~~ disciplined.
Is has happened before in a case like this. Ask Phill Kilne.
Phill Kline was not disbarred, he had an indefinite suspension of his Kansas law license. Meaning he cannot practice law for 3 years.
Kline, now an assistant professor of law at Liberty University in Virginia, will have to wait three years if he wants to seek reinstatement of his Kansas law license, according to Kansas Supreme Court rules.
In Friday’s order, the court rejected the recommendation of the state’s disciplinary administrator for attorneys, who had sought Kline’s disbarment. It also ruled that Kline did not violate four other rules that a state disciplinary panel had previously found he had.
Since that article was published in 2020, Kline will be eligible to reinstate his Kansas law licence in November of this year.
Skrmetti may face something similar in Tennessee, but more than likely his sentence will be a much lighter slap on the wrist compared to what Kline got...
“freedom” is a term some people can shove up their throat as long as they don’t understand what it stands for. Hope the hospital gets their azz kicked
While I don't think it was done maliciously against them specifically, this is of course a fail in ensuring the privacy of the patients that specifically requested for their privacy to be respected. Is it known if between the other 98 cases there weren't any other requests for privacy?
But in all honesty, why is privacy a request and not a right given to all?
this is likely a HIPAA violation. The thing conservatives crowed about back during vaccine requirements for jobs (and were entirely wrong about being related to HIPAA). The hospital would explicitly require patients to approve providing the records to the government. The government is a covered entity in HIPAA.
HIPAA explicitly allows the release of records for law enforcement investigations. However, the plaintiffs will argue this was a malicious case and done without warrants.
Permitted disclosure must meet certain requirements. The amount of PHI provided must be the minimum amount possible to meet the required activity. Nothing here seems to meet the requirement provided. Tbh, auditing/billing isn't even listed as a permitted disclosure.
Edit: I take it back. Supported fraud programs is a permitted disclosure. However, it needs to be the minimum amount of PHI disclosed to meet that goal.
Yeah, it really might be. This should be making the sending of the entire batch of documents illegal, unless they all signed a void at the very start that their info would be sent if requested regardless.
Still, this is fucked up.
HIPPA makes it not a request, I'd be surprised if this wasn't considered a MASSIVE HIPPA violation as this is the kind of reason it exists: so patients can receive help without worrying about the consequences of doing so.
Yeah, like I thought. As said in another comment there might be some ground where the hospital makes you sign a document to void your rights under that law unless requested. Unless there is a protection from that, anyone can just invert the default choice.
While I'm sure lawyers have looked at it (and I'm not one), my understanding is that you cannot sign away your statutory rights in most cases.
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