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White House blasts Elon Musk for promoting ‘antisemitic and racist hate’ (www.cnbc.com)
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[–] PotjiePig@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

I'm getting completely sick of inanimate objects and concepts blasting and slamming people. It's always Country X Slams Y, or building X blasts Y.

What's wrong with Andrew Bates criticizing Elon Musk. Why do we sum these people up to a point they become shadows behind a larger concept?

The White House is a building filled with people and opinions. It doesn't blast shit, shut the hell up. No take away from the content here. I'm just fed up with click bait and hearing that whole countries have a unified voice, going around slamming things everytime some asshole says something about another asshole just because the media needs to put a more famous face behind it to give it a bit more oomf.

Apologies for the rant, but I find it all very misleading and rather annoying. The amount of times a country of 300 million people has blasted some dude without consulting with said 300 million people is upsetting.

Having said that, Musk is a cunt. But I say that, not Lemmy. Lol.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy SLAMS cnbc

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

Lemmy user u/PotjiePig viciously disembowels and subsequently consumes the entrails of modern media language!

[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

What’s wrong with Andrew Bates criticizing Elon Musk.

Because White House Deputy Press Secretary Andrew Bates is not speaking for himself, he's speaking for the institution of the White House as part of his job. Your rant is totally out of place here.

[–] subignition@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I think their broader point is still valid, which is that clickbaity "blasts" is fucking annoying regardless

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Journalism is dead and capitalism killed it

[–] N0body@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And why is it always a slam when wrestling has so many other moves? "White House Suplexes Musk" "Trump Power Bombs DeSantis From The Top Rope" At least be creative with it.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"Musk Hit With Chair" sounds great to me.

[–] SevFTW@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

„So I started blasting”

- the White House, probably

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"Potjie Pig Blasts CNBC For Promoting 'Blasting' And 'Slamming'"

[–] djquadratic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Damn this reminded me to think for a second before adopting or endorsing this. Thank dude

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Synecdoche

[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's like an old Batman TV episode.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

slamming and then blasting is basically me every night before bed.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you're taking away his subsidies, right?

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Nope just a "blast" whatever that is.

[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

He’ll be rewarded with a government subsidy nonetheless.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Good for the White House. What he did was not acceptable.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

I mean, on the one hand, it's good that it's said. It should be said.

On the other, none of the people who need to comprehend this care.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

The board at Tesla cannot be happy about this.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’ll fix it for sure. Every blast and slam have provenly moved the needle to the positive.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The funny part tho is that Elon said he’s going to file a thermonuclear lawsuit on every entity involved in the “smear” so apparently that includes the White House. Good luck with that, dude.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He actually said that?

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does that not sound exactly like the kind of dumb shit he would say?

You know how he is, the White House had something to say about it, so obviously they’re involved too.

[–] Moebius@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People want to compare him to Tony Stark, but really he is just a 2 bit Wernher Von Braun.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No. Wernher von Braun was a brilliant scientist who worked for fascists, possibly under duress.

Musk is an idiot savant manchild taking the credit for the work of others and voluntarily cooperating with fascists and other bad actors to benefit his own ego and wallet.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idiot (99%) savant (1%)

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yep and like Trump, the 1% savant lies in self-promotion and otherwise conning rubes, not anything that's useful to the world in any way.

[–] Moebius@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was speaking of the nazi aspects of them both.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I was pointing out that Musk is no scientist and, unlike von Braun, we KNOW that he's working with the nazis and other fascists on purpose even though he doesn't have to.

[–] Moebius@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really think that he was working under duress with the nazis?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know for sure, of course, but from what I've read about him it seems like he was just a scientist and harbored no fascist political views.

He wanted to build rockets for space exploration and was drafted into the war effort. The degree to which he was forced is unknown, but the nazis weren't exactlt known for their gentle methods of persuasion.

[–] Moebius@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Given the scientists that made it out of Germany, it seems a little suspect, but I suppose we will never know for sure. I get wanting to pursue your life’s passion, but forced or not, he assisted one of the worst regimes this world has ever known and his knowledge directly lead to the deaths of many people. Ultimately does it really matter what he believed if through his actions he aided the nazis anyway?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but forced or not

Ultimately does it really matter

Hell yeah it does! If von Braun had no ability to refuse, there's no fucking way he was anywhere near as bad as Musk.

Musk who's one of the richest and most powerful people in the world and as a result can do almost literally whatever he wants.

Musk who, despite widespread condemnation, continues to insist that it's not just okay to enable abuse and stochastic terrorism, it's his duty and makes him a hero of the people 🤦

[–] Moebius@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No ability to refuse? Sure you don’t really believe that. We all have a choice, even if that choice is to end our lives, there is always a choice. He could have taken himself out, with as many of the scientists possible and set their program back years.

Are you really saying that him being responsible for the deaths of so many people due to German rockets still doesn’t make him as bad a musk? Really? Come on, musk is a fucking asshole but he has be directly involved with mass murder.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a whole thing ready but since you're apparently not operating on a very high level of understanding, I'll keep it relatively brief and simple:

Yes! OF COURSE it matters whether you have a choice or not and whether doing anything else is in your power!

As for direct involvement, Musk willingly and knowingly assisting the Chinese government censoring all mentions of their past and present atrocities while boosting the propaganda of known domestic terrorists is AT LEAST as direct as designing ordinance that the nazis then fired at a civilian.

[–] Moebius@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago

Lol, you are funny. Have a nice day.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh Braun was in the party and never attempted to defect until his side had lost. He prioritized physics over politics sure, but he didn’t try to minimize the suffering his employers caused. At best he was an apolitical developer of arms for Nazi Germany who used concentration camp labor to do it.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

never attempted to defect

How do you know?Did he ever have the opportunity to do so? The nazis probably kept him under 24/7 armed surveillance.

didn’t try to minimize the suffering his employers caused

Same question.

At best he was an apolitical developer of arms for Nazi Germany who used concentration camp labor to do it.

No, at best he was a slave himself, just with more privileges. Like how in US chattel slavery house slaves had more privileges than field slaves but still had no freedom, rights or ability to make their own choices.

In contrast, Musk has all the rights, privileges and freedom in the world and he's voluntarily using it to aid fascists and other monsters while pretending that it's a heroic thing to do.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because he had every reason to make all the claims he wanted and didn’t. Operation paperclip would’ve cleared his name if he had put up a reasonable farce of it.

And I know because a lot of researchers on the American side were German and Italian defectors who left when fascists started gaining power. Werner von Braun wouldn’t’ve been subject to quotas or anything like that as a leading rocket scientist.