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Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I wrote a longer comment, but to be honest, it all boils down to "Trump is insane."
And 77 million Americans that voted for him are either idiots or insane.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

They thought he was going to make the brown people disappear and they voted with their hatred.

That's what it boils down too.

ANY trump insignia to me says "I support rape, child rape, hatred towards anyone I can't extort money from and anyone not white." And I avoid them like the plague they are.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 36 points 1 day ago

Trump agrees with the last person he spoke with

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I believe the number is roughly closer to 160 million. I don’t blame the trump voters, stupid is gonna stupid, but the non-voters…. 245 million registers voters, 155M voted.

From the song Freewill by Rush, β€œIf you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-15/how-many-people-didnt-vote-in-the-2024-election

Edit: Me no math good, so that might not add up exactly, but the point remains.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

there’s lots of blame to go around, but you can’t on 1 hand blame apathetic voters and on the other hand NOT blame active trump voters just for stupidity… stupidity may not be a crime, but it also isn’t an excuse

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes if they didn't try to prevent Trump, they are part of the problem. Except of course if they had a valid reason the were prevented.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Everyone imagines they have a valid reason.

[–] milkisklim@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's okay, I just say TACO until I calm down

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Yes this was totally TACO. Such a well deserved nick name.

[–] mateofeo85@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

True, but that kind of falls under the first 2.
If you are racist you are an idiot or insane.
Racist is just a specific idiotic or insane opinion. But most of them are absolutely racist.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck that demented rapist piece of shit. Garbage human. Traitor.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As an American, i do not endorse this.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You are probably not a complete idiot or totally insane then. So I feel very sorry for you, it must be hell to live in USA as a normal person.

Are you playing a lot of computer games to escape reality?

Good question. My head is in the sand for a lot of the news cycle. I get most of it from Seth Meyers to ease the delivery with comedy. A broad swath of media consumption does distract me also. I play a lot of backgammon.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 27 points 1 day ago
[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I honestly don't think this will change the reality of the situation. Ukraine won't agree, Europe won't agree. I think we're headed for a frozen conflict where Russia claims and controls parts of Eastern Ukraine, but only a few countries recognise the region as being part of Russia.

Ukraine would need to be able to launch a major offensive to dislodge the Russians from Ukraine entirely, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. As much as we want them to withdraw from Ukraine, it's quite clear they have no intentions of doing so. They're just going to sit tight.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago

Economy.

Economy will keep this conflict from freezing. The Russia's economy is spiralling downwards, possibly unrecoverably. That country will go bankrupt. Inflation is eating people's savings in terms of how many grams of bread you can buy with your salary. That will make people discontent.

And also, the Russian soldier is in it almost purely for the money. That means, the money paid to the soldiers must rise at least at the same pace as inflation. Which, in one hand, means that the government needs to pay more and more, and in the other hand that there will be more inflation because companies have to compete with the soldiers' salaries in order to get any workforce at all. Eventually the only way the Russia can pay those exponentially increasing salaries for its soldiers will be by printing money.

And when you print money, you end up with hyperinflation. And when the Russia gets that far, it's over with the war. Any Russian will understand at that point that retaining control over territories in Ukraine is less important than having an economy. USA can slow down the collapse of the Russia's economy, but it cannot prevent it. If EU joins in with USA, then yes, the Russia's economy can survive. But USA will be the only western country siding with the Russia, so the Russia is a dead man walking. Being the biggest economy in the world, the EU has a lot of say in this.

I wouldn't call it a frozen conflict if it has an end that is known to arrive.

And Trump only cares because he campaigned on ending the war in a day, and has been made to look a fool over and over again by Putin. It's why him and Vance are so into shitting on Zelensky, Ukraine needs/wants US weapons/help, and Putin doesn't, giving them no leverage of any kind with Russia. And the Right feels that toxic masculinity when they can shit on people in need.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

He's not called TACO without reason.

[–] opus86@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Trump certainly made a spectacle of getting walked all over.

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump's idea of strength is letting the strong man have whatever he wants. He just usually imagines himself as the strong man.

Yeah, Trump has no spine, but he is used to dunking on people less fortunate/in need/having morals. When you give zero shits about anyone in this world besides yourself and your daughter you want to fuck, it makes it really easy to just declare yourself tough while beating up the little guys. He has used daddy's money, lawsuits, and NDAs to carry him through his whole life.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Putinpoodle

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Divided up one of the lesser countries vertically perhaps. How novel.

Traitors. Russians and Americans. Just fucking garbage stupid bullies.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

We've been through this before in 2014 with that cunt Merkel and the good for nothing, "hope and peace and shit", Obama.

EDIT: Some people here might not like what I am saying (which I find surprising considering that Merkel rewarded Putin with Nord Stream II after the invasion of Crimea and Donbas - this is a fact), but this is a very somewhat common view in Ukraine (my use of swearing notwithstanding).

[–] troed@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Many outside of Ukraine don't realize that this war didn't start in 2022 but in 2014.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 day ago

The war started in 1991, when we dared split off from the ~~Russian Empire~~ Soviet Union

earlier, putin was testing the waters with crimea, and georgia? '08

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, Obama was good for the US but awful to the world for appeasing Putin via his puppet Medvedev. McCain on the other hand was critical of the Russian invasion of Georgia and had strong ties to the opposition in Russia, so he was well-informed on the situation. He wouldn't enable Putin to violate international law time and time again.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

I was actually living in the US when Obama got elected. I got caught up in the Obama hype at the time (I was pretty young).

While I admit my opinion on Obama started leaning negative in 2014, even when living in the US I didn't really understand why there was no real prosecution of major financial groups following the the 2008 great recession.

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago

How was the speech went "...I have secured peace in our time" and that went well right? Though I suppose that time it was giving land to nazis, now its the nazis giving land?