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[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 78 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Being a PD, one of the most soul-crushing jobs out there, is just an "easy paycheck"??

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 61 points 5 days ago

Working as a nurse at the sewage treatment plant for the easy paycheck.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 56 points 5 days ago

There's basically one guaranteed way to have a terrible workload and shit pay and no recognition as a lawyer, so I don't really give a shit about how ideologically pure any PD is. They are definitionally fighters for the working class.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago

I once had an acquaintance that worked as a public defender in...Texas...Arizona...I dunno some US desert hell state. They said 3/4ths of their job was stopping people of colour with fetal alcohol syndrome from signing a confession because the police said if they signed it they could "go home."

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe they meant easy in the sense that it's easy to get the job? No idea if that's the case.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

It definitely is not.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 63 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Notable anarchist stance of...supporting the prison system and advocating for longer sentences.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 51 points 5 days ago (4 children)

anarchists get such a shit name from these useless idiot liberals who like to put a black flag in their username and think that anarchism is just a vibes-based thing with no consistent theory or practice. I mean, communists have that issue too, but it seems notably worse for the anarchists.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Idk I would have agreed with you till the patsoc thing arise. We're all cooked.

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago

I have yet to run into a patsoc or Maga Communist in real life, I have met quite a few of these.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago

Depending on how you're defining communists, the communists are much more frequently compromised, they are just better at not sounding like teenagers or radlibs.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I've seen plenty of defense of vigilantism from anarchists, and no not just online ones.

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[–] GeckoChamber@hexbear.net 67 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So true, public defenders should just vibe check the defendant and fuck up the case on purpose if they are about to get off too easy

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

Well the cops arrested them so they must be guilty, lock them up! What do you mean my opinions are completely indistinguishable from your fascist uncle?

FYI, intentionally giving someone a bad defense as a lawyer is a disbarable and sueable offense. Even if a PD gets a client who is obviously guilty as sin, if they do a obviously bad job defending them they will lose their license and probably get sued for everything they're worth.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 51 points 5 days ago (5 children)

This persons defense of their take is wild. "I believe in due process and right to a fair trial, but I also think the people who ensure that right are pieces of shit."

It really reminds me of that meme I can't find where someone is like "I believe in rehabilitative justice."

"This person did a bad thing."

"IMMEDIATE DEATH!"

[–] RION@hexbear.net 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago

MANY such cases

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

“So true! Fuck public defenders, cops and prosecutors should be able to do whatever the fuck they want!” -fedposting

Twitter “anarchists” doing literal “soft on crime” copaganda. lmao

[–] shath@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

anarchism is a fed ideology at it's core - it has been completely hollowed out by psyop academica

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

stop-fighting Maintain the Peace! MAINTAIN THE PEACE!

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[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 53 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've known a fair few public defenders and only ever read of ones that did it for non-ideological reasons (Queer Harmer). Like either you absolutely fully believe in the importance of defending both the guilty and innocent from the potential injustices of the legal system or you're not cut out for it.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've known a fair few public defenders and only ever read of ones that did it for non-ideological reasons (Queer Harmer).

New Keir Starmer nickname unlocked.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Keir Stürmer Kid Starver Queer Harmer

There's a couple of good ones out there

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[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 50 points 5 days ago

this was one of the worst twitter arguments i've ever bore witness too. Just literal advocacy for lynch mobs

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

tbh the entire legal system should be ripped out and replaced so that you don't need someone with an expensive fancy degree to navigate it

but for now though public defenders are fine
some are shit and fail to help their clients properly but that's for many reasons

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

I don't think it's avoidable that you need expertise for handling something epistemically rigorous like the legal system should be. Other solutions include making the degree less expensive and cops and the legal system less predatory.

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 47 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

These are the same people so concerned about men getting falsely accused of sexual assault.

A defender’s literal job is to defend their client no matter what. And yes, pleading guilty does lead to lighter sentences.

Plus this is fucking Amerikkka. The mob is always wrong, if we just kept doing lynch mobs then it would be illegal to NOT be a nazi by now.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

These are the same people so concerned about men getting falsely accused of sexual assault.

Is it? That's not really the vibe I get from this tweet.

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Plus this is fucking Amerikkka. The mob is always wrong,

I agree that we shouldn't do lynch mobs, but it's a lie told by reactionaries that popular sentiment in America is consistently in favor of reactionary attitudes and ideas. On many important issues, popular sentiment is far to the left of anything the political establishment humors.

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[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 46 points 5 days ago

admitted that they've defendedremoveds and helped them get lighter sentences

This person must believe a heavier sentence is always a better sentence.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 49 points 5 days ago

Twitter users discover the concept of lawyers

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago

Advocating for lynch mobs in America, please face the wall.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So deeply unserious it is threatening the constitution of the earth's core

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 36 points 5 days ago

Easy paycheck? Crap lawyers? How does one become so confidently incorrect?

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the unambiguous right to legal defense is one of the only good things in our fucking rag of a constitution

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I wouldn’t really call it “unambiguous”. For most of the USA’s history (up to the 60s) there was no right to counsel at all (if you wanted a lawyer, you had to hire one yourself). When the SC first introduced the right to counsel it was only for felonies. It was only years later in 1972 after that that misdemeanors were also included. There still isn’t any right to counsel in civil cases (which is why cities love imposing civil penalties where you have no right to a lawyer to help challenge them). Even in criminal cases, in most places you only have a right to counsel if jail time is possible. Well actually that’s not entirely accurate: the SC clarified in a later case that you only have a right to counsel in misdemeanor cases if jail time is actually imposed.

The constitution doesn’t actually provide for an unambiguous right to counsel. You have an inferred right that applies in certain cases so long as the country’s 9 favorite people don’t decide that no, you don’t, actually.

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[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is literally how "Law and Order" treats public defenders. Not that I've watched the show, I just watched a YouTube essay on copaganda.

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty." - Inquisitor Fyodor Karamazov

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Fuck this person they are not an anarchist.

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, calling for people to be thrown in prison is pretty much the opposite of anarchism. I have no idea why this person would call themselves an anarchist

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Real “guilty until proven innocent” hours here.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

They guy they are going after is an abuser who rage quit the "party" he started because he made women and particularly trans women uncomfortable so many times that they barred him from posting on Twitter as a representative of the org. He literally thinks he is lenin and described getting barred from Twitter posting by his party which he started as "being like Lenin after his stroke." Him and his clique of cis men left because he wasn't allowed to post on twitter and started a newspaper and reading group despite none of them doing any real organizing work and now posture to be the tip of the vanguard while trying to poach small organizations into subsuming themselves into his org. Him and everyone who works with him are grifters.

I do think the discourse against public defenders is shallow all things considered but I don't think that is really the issue people have with him, it is how he speaks about and to women and carries himself in general as a know it all communist larper

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