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finding most of the chapo eps either really boring/depressing (i cba to listen to some dude promote his book about "refounding the American Republic", fuck off) or just not that funny these days. need something to listen to that will make me laugh about the awful shit going on. any recs? is trueanon good?

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

TrueAnon's pretty good but it hinges on whether you like Brace's humor (I do). despite being ML they do not really bring up class often or do much class analysis along with the humor the way CTH did when it was firing on all cylinders. it is nice to have a podcast that hates the bourgeois and Musk and Thiel and Trump with a burning fire though

[–] CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I find him incredibly funny, but I stopped listening because their deep irony poisoning leads to a lot of punches at random subcultures and it started to feel a bit cruel. God forbid someone earnestly enjoys something, likes to nerd out, or lives some kind of more niche lifestyle.

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

He's recently been making jokes about people who self harm which feels needlessly cruel and egregiously punching down, which is really unfortunate.

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

I listened to TrueAnon once and they were saying ableist slurs within the first ten minutes, so I dropped it

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Brace is funny but also kinda annoying when he's on CTH. I really like Liv Agar tho.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Liv Agar is with QAA not TrueAnon

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

smh so i guess i've been conflating those two podcasts for years without realising it lol

[–] miz@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

yeah he works best when he can bounce off Liz's much drier style and the production includes audio clips or music drops to punctuate the humor

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i have just now realised that Liz is from TrueAnon and Liv is from QAnonAnonymous, which are two different podcasts. fml lol

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Liv Franczak of TrueAnon Anonymous

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

trueanon is usually good. Their more focused episodes r a treat and well researched. lately they’ve been shooting from the hip. i would say to hear them at their best you gotta listened to the series like 9/11, The Game, keep the dream alive, etc.

[–] varmint@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trash Future is pretty fun if you're okay with them focusing mainly on the UK

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

thanks, that's a good rec, i live in the UK and used to enjoy it. However they're all so incredibly posh and i got into an argument with november on twitter a while ago and i can't stomach listening to it since then unfortunately. also that ep of Britainology where they reviewed the Top Gear US episode and the American was whining so much about their light ribbing of the US south was super annoying.

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's remarkable how wrong November is consistently but she's funny enough that nobody cares, apparently. Tuned her out after she was supporting HTS taking over Syria and calling Rania Khalek a doomer.

QAnon Anonymous (QAA) is my vote for funny podcast about the present day insanity

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

supporting HTS taking over Syria

jesus christ

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've never heard a good take from her TBH.

she sucks and talks over everyone the whole time. the best episodes are the ones without her

[–] Nacarbac@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

all so incredibly posh

Yeah, the constant referencing of classical history is amusing in that "look at this in-group signalling they can't help themselves but make" kinda way, but then it gets kinda... sad when they start talking quite confidently about the working class experiences of life in the UK and they clearly have no relation to it whatsoever. That's mostly on the Britainnology side.

The train guy they have on is good - his podcast Railnatter is pretty interesting, and quite focused on Train Stuff.

[–] hotspur@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

They are the closest for me to the vibe of early trapo. Also can’t recall which guy, but one of the Brit’s in that show does hilarious impressions. The cast the net wide enough that I don’t find the otherwise British focus to be a downside.

[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago (6 children)

They're funnier than the Chapo boys now anyway, but also quite a bit more doomer.

[–] upmysleeves@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

idk they've gotten so miserable these past fews years (i don't blame them)

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Trillbillies is the answer, much funnier than any of the other popular left-y podcasts

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[–] Dyno@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (5 children)

the worst of all possible worlds - there's an undercurrent of criticism about american evangelicalism (particularly the adventures in odyssey episodes) if you're into that, but they also cover a range of media including films, tv, video games etc.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

A+ intermission skits too, my favorite is the Silent Hill/Alan Wake/Max Payne crossover where they all commiserate about being guys in big jackets looking for their wives

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[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Cumtown -

Yes, I know, some clips are understandably of too poor taste for some people, but stuff like Liberal Elmo, or Montgomery Gentry (about new Country Music and anti woke people hating on Starbucks for some reason) really cut to the heart of our incredibly stupid and infantile political climate. You can find plenty of clips on YouTube.

Also, hearing them dumbly rip the piss out of Andrew Cuomo, Joe Biden, Ben Shapiro and so on, mercilessly and without taking them seriously at all - e.g doing an impression of Trump talking about Robert Deniro being gay while 9/11 is being reported - I know it's 'bad', but it's so absurd and irreverent that it feels very fitting for the times.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not all the way through it, but I thought the last episode was pretty good. He's literally doing democratic socialism, saying that democracy needs to be extended to the workplace and the economy generally.

Obviously, I'm not a demsoc, but I think it's good for them to have more of a voice when they aren't attacking more radical leftists (which he didn't as far as I saw).

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

it just looks like repackaged bernieism to me and we all know how that went. The promotional materials seem to praise the founding fathers as well.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're talking about promotional material when I am telling you that I listened to the actual interview and you are wrong with your vibe check. He said that he finds it credible that the first American Revolution was the Civil War and that even with the subsequent progress made by various suffrage movements, even by Athenian standards, American "democracy" is aristocratic and performative (and it's his core argument that America is not a democracy!)

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ok fair enough. i still have some misgivings abt his credentials and cba with a book promo episode but that sounds better than i assumed it would be.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I think a basic mistrust of someone who writes for the Guardian (etc.) is a reasonable place to start at, I just don't think Chapo would have on a DNC ghoul to pitch their audience on "107 Days" and instead thought that this guy's takes on how America is not a real democracy and we should make it a real democracy were worth sharing, even if he's more libbed up than we are in many ways (though the way that he spoke about workplace democracy and such makes me think he's at least a solid demsoc). I also agree with you that some of the pandering wordings were gross, but to put it in context it might be worth revisit Frederick Douglass's "The Meaning of the Fourth of July to the Negro," where he starts off with pages of jerking off the Founders but then excoriates them and everyone else in a way completely unheard of in modern America's mainstream political discourse. It's at least true that the demonic Founders were somewhat progressive in their revolution for their opposition to monarchy and opposition to explicit, codified theocracy, and I think it's fair enough to recognize things like that so long as you maintain the context of slavery, opposition to "unfettered" democracy, patriarchy, etc.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah I was listening to this ep while running errands and found it interesting if not humorous. Useful little bits to use against liberals who think their vote might be defending democracy.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

The deprogram is sorta close.

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

cba to listen to some dude promote his book about "refounding the American Republic", fuck off

100-com

lmao was that David Sirota? he's also a liberal zionist

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

OP is representing the issue misleadingly, whether intentional or not. The guest was arguing for democratic socialism, as far as I could tell.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

nah it's the most recent ep with Osita Nwanevu, who is a contributing editor at The New Republic and a columnist at The Guardian according to his website. book's tagline is "Democracy and the Case for a New American Founding" which sounds like some dull constitution-worshipping shit. having Sirota on was completely awful too. i listened to Chapo for slop not for book promotional interviews.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every now and then Chapo kinda seems to forget that it's not a 'journalism and newspaper' podcast.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

will-fancy

back in the golden age when Matt's sword of verbal fire was unbroken, you could tell the episodes with bad guests because Matt would either not show up or only say one or two sentences the whole episode

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you not actually look at the book at all? He's arguing for radically amending the constitution.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

i reiterate

contributing editor at The New Republic and a columnist at The Guardian

why should anyone want to amend the American constitution at all, can we fix israel by "radically amending the basic law" too?

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Democratic socialists are a benefit to socialism generally if they are arguing from a standpoint of material empowering working people, which this guy is. Either they succeed in making their reforms, and people are empowered, or they fail and radicalize people, as we saw happen with Bernie -- who was critical in the political awakenings of a whole generation of people who now rightly view him as too conservative.

Communists seriously should run for elected office, on campaigns of making radical changes that are allowed by existing legal frameworks -- and the US Constitution especially formally allows for really any change. They cannot "fix" America, but they can benefit us nonetheless. Read Marx, he says the same thing.

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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

i listened to Chapo for slop not for book promotional interviews.

Okay but have you heard their readings of Ben Shapiro's novels?

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[–] ColombianLenin@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Thoughts on the Deprogram?

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

For me they vary in quality/entertainment value. They’re a bit too terminally online “talking in memes” for my taste sometimes. But they also get into good discussions. I feel like they’re somewhat in my rear view mirror in terms of the pipeline but I’m sure it’s good at radicalising like 17 year olds. Maybe.

not funny and aimed at baby leftists

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

tried to enjoy it but not really that funny

[–] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

I had to stop listening, one of them just kept shouting in the mic. Too hard to listen to

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