“Jay walker” propaganda all over again.
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That website is propaganda group that both fuels and funds far-right movements. They are not journalists, but an influencing machine. The better subs have banned their links.
If you want to read about our asshat politician and this story in particular, it's covered here: https://irishcycle.com/2025/07/05/td-asks-about-making-high-vis-compulsory-for-all-pedestrians-cyclists-and-users-of-school-transport/
Punishing pedestrians for the danger of cars. Classic car-brain-rot mentality.
So now our deference to cars is such that we all have to carry an extra garment just to walk the streets? That seems fine. /s
Hi-viz doesn't do anything. There's no statistical difference in casualty rates between people wearing it and people not. Consider that drivers routinely plow into the back of emergency vehicles stopped by the side of the highway, completely wrapped in hi-viz, reflective material, and with million-lumen flashing lights. This is victim-blaming nonsense.
Not necessarily true. Hi-viz markings on vehicles have proven to reduce crashes by as much as 20%.
I don’t see why the same logic couldn’t be applied to crashes involving people.
Punishing pedestrians for the danger of cars. Classic car-brain-rot mentality.
He is not wrong. Makes it way easier to hit pedestrians.
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Sure, make it a problem of everyone else. Just please, please, don't inconvenience the car enthusiasts! 😭
What about streets that don't endanger others? Bike lanes that don't cross streets? Dunno, make car drivers drive careful?
I'd propose to introduce a pedestrian's licence, too. Can't have these people just run around without any proper training!
In other news, the Irish accidentally elected a car.
That tracks.
Get off the pavement, ya waxy cunt.
Next up: controlling who you love
We should have a mandatory car with a red flag driving 3m in front of every pedestrian.
The first cars were required to have a flag man.
I almost think, I've heard of it. 🙃
It should be noted that in rural areas, many roads are unlit and quite winding. Ireland has very high road density with lots of minor roads. Many people walk on these roads which have no path. Use of lights and reflective or hi vis clothing is sensible and already common.
Seems like subsidizing free hi vis jackets is the way to go then, and let people decide.
Is wearing hi vis clothing sensible on country roads with no sidewalks? Yes.
Should it be mandatory just to go out on a walk? No. How about we lower speed limits on those roads or create safer roads. Walking is a basic human right (or moving about in whatever way you need to if your body doesn't allow you to walk). Driving a car is not.
I can understand. Once I encountered a jogger wearing a completely black outfit in a dark unlit road. The only reason I saw the guy was because there were a few reflective bits on his shoes. That was a nice scare.
I've come across similar cyclists, no lights, no reflectors, dark clothing. Just borderline suicidal.
When I was a poor college kid I recalled a Halloween costume joke from an SNL bit. It involved a black hoodie, black sweatpants, and a black ski mask. All I had to purchase was the ski mask. Don my outfit and I became "The Invisible Pedestrian". Used that costume a few years.
Horrible. I hope your car wasn't traumatized. Let's call these "pedestrians" by their true name: terrorists! Because that's what they are. Terrorists, creeping around our roads at night, dressed in black, assaulting our vehicles, eating our cats and dogs.
Why are you being downvoted? I can't believe people are not able to see the clear sarcasm in your comment.
There all terrorists, obviously. Terrorists! Or maybe they can't take the idea of a traumatized car. But it happens, I'm telling you. It's the truth! Our cars are being traumatized, our dogs and cats are eaten, it happens every day!
Sounds like the speed limit should be 20km/h then.
12mph?! Never traveled rural areas? It would take me over 2 hours to get to my camp in the boonies and 26 hours to pick up my kids.
Wanna go faster? Get your politicians to build you safer roads. Pedestrian lives are not expendable.
I don't think you've ever been to a rural area, have you?
Use of lights and reflective or hi vis clothing is sensible and already common.
Thanks for sharing, would you say accidents happen enough to make this mandatory?
Like seatbelts, of it saves lives and is harmless, then why not. If no lives are saved, nobody is worse off. If one life is saved, it's worth it. Like seatbelts laws, the idea is a change in thinking not to fine people for non compliance.
I doubt it will become mandatory. It seems more like a thought bubble. Ireland used to have very high road death figures but has worked hard to change that.
Wouldn't reevaluating the road system to meet pedestrian needs better be a far saner response than trying to mandate everyone wear special clothing? Maybe convert a few of those roads from vehicle to pedestrian only and explore options to provide better lighting on both.
I think the why not is anyone leaving their house without the required vest could be ticketed. Even walking to a car. I know my wife would not be keen on having to wear a reflective vest over a fancy dress and I certainly would not want to wear one over a plain white tee or no shirt at all on hot days hiking somewhere.
When my dad visited Dublin and the surrounding area, they were driving by another car on a road with a car they rented and the road was so narrow that the side mirror got knocked right off.
When they returned the car, the rental company was completely nonplussed because it happens so often. Afterwards, they started noticing that a lot of the cars had their mirror missing on the same side.
I recommend it. I can't tell you how many times I've had to slam on the breaks because some jackass decided to cross on the middle of a dark street in dark clothes.
How DARE people move around the landscape in the traditional way that humans have been locomoting for tens of thousands of years without considering YOUR needs!
(That is, if you can't see what's in front of your car, you need to slow down.)
e: typo
Well if we're going to unnecessarily inconvenience a group of people, I think a national 5mph limit would have a better effect
Remember when wales lowered their speed limit and all the car brains went nuts? Yeah, same thing will happen in ireland i would wager.
I call for mandatory pool noodles taped to every car.
Unironically, it's weird that crash safety standards don't include pedestrians.
They do in Europe I believe. One of the reasons why the Cybertruck and Pickups in general aren't sold in the EU.
That sounds likely, although they do have some models available. They just haven't been as popular.
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To be fair, here's only saying that because the tin Man and the lion don't have the heart or the courage to tell him he's missing something.