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[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 148 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Translation help from Fascist English to US English:

  • "activist" = a non-politician whose free speech we don't like
  • "allow all voices to be heard" / "free speech" = extremist/unconstitutional/propaganda speech which serves the interests of the current fascist regime must be allowed, while every other speech will be labelled as being activist/communist/un-American/...
  • "defend [...] all Americans" = at least the part of Americans which we tolerate or haven't jailed yet (subject to change)
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Kyub's right.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 138 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.

That's real fucking rich coming from the government that:

  • Removed all references to "trans-" regardless of context.
  • Retaliates against left-leaning press.
  • Calls information they dislike "fake news".
  • Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget

removed funding for weather services or deleted materials related to climate change

runs from people trying to ask them questions

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

If we're adding "runs from people trying to ask them questions", we should be more accurate about it.

runs from people trying to ask them questions, calling them plants put there by political opponents

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

That because they don't want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the regressive mindset for you. When they say 'all', they mean themselves.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They don't want to be forced to listen to what YOU have to say, but they want to force YOU to listen to what they have to say.

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[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

No no, you don't understand. That doesn't apply to us plebs (US citizens). It only applies to other countries so that the government can checks notes "strongly condemn" them.

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this the same United States that’s investigating people for having unflattering memes of the vice president on their phone?

Tell us more about the importance of free speech.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago

It’s the free speech where they cancel broadcasts they don’t like in exchange for approving corporate mergers.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 48 points 1 week ago

You have to believe that the French government have evaluated in the same week the risk of recognising Palestine and condemning a US company against how vindictive the US government are right now. Hopefully they stick to their guns on both.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 36 points 1 week ago

As part of a criminal investigation, an activist American payment network is requesting to stop selling video games that they seem inappropriate and has basically treated itch.io, Steam, etc. as an “organized crime group.” Democratic governments should allow all games to be played, not silence things they dislike. The United States will defend the free prudence of all Americans against acts of foreign fun.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago

The only thing I condemn the French inquiry on is that it should have already happened.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From my experience living in the US, the country is not a good reference point for any discussions around the nature of free speech.

Free speech polemics in the US largely have a demonstrative role with individuals parroting random copytext that they've heard before in an attempt to position themselves as being special and independent.

In a way, the whole thing is very entertaining.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There is that.

American democrats, though, irritated me more until I've started noticing Republicans. They have that "parties switched in 1960s" myth (only parties' ideas on race switched, while the main ideology of the democratic party is not too different from "progressives" of 1890s, those guys who advocated for prophylactic lynchings ; and it's the same about Republicans, whose "anti-racist" ideas were just as Christian fundamentalism based as their today's projects), and also the "popular party" myth (while even in appearances being something to the top of which only people born with a silver spoon in mouth can get).

At the same time the "free speech" stuff over there seems to mostly be about "they in their totalitarian countries (or pockets of society dominated by the other party) are lied by their propaganda media, and we here are free and are told the truth".

Not sure it's entertaining, it looks depressing. But I haven't lived in the US.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Every state or social group has its shibboleths - the American one is just to performatively pretend they don't have any.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Definitely. There is a lot of good things about the US, lots to see, different types of experiences, nice nature. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with polemics that make no sense.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

USA can straight up go fuck itself now. They don't dictate anything anymore.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seriously. They should do the rest of the world a favour and close itself off from us. That way we won't dictate what their idiots can and can't do or say.

[–] derry@midwest.social 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No please, don't leave those of us that are rational in here around with the nut jobs. We're trying to correct course but these people are nuts

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

I am personally for accepting immigrants from USA

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[–] semisimian@startrek.website 24 points 1 week ago

Okay, now defend us from the foreign censorship that Israeli lobbyists baked into our state constitutions. https://www.newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colleges-illegal-bds-1895292

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Requesting information isn't limiting free speech is it? Now if that algorithm shows it is indeed limiting or promoting people's speech in a non-equal manner, that would be limiting people's free speech would it not?

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dont try facts on the American government and 40% of its population. They dont work like that.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just call it Twitter. He's been trying to make "fetch" happen since the 90s. We get it, rich boy, you have a single-character .com domain. I'm still sending money over PayPal, because that's what it's fucking called.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

PayPal? The platform that can freeze your account and keep your money for whatever reason and amount of time they like? I don't know...

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Not even regular idiots, hypocritical idiots.

[–] ReluctantZen 5 points 1 week ago

What is the actual context here? I don't trust what this tweet says

us should realise the world doesn't revolve around them and nobody respects them.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

large backlog in north korea, russia, and china. Better get that military up to snuff.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's not American, he's a super racist south african with Canadian citizenship.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's been an American for 23 years.

[–] db2@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In America. Not the same thing. He's been an illegal alien the whole time.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

His citizenship hasn't been revoked. That's like saying Trump should be in jail. Sure, but where does he sleep at night?

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Difference is Trump WAS going to jail. He just decided he wouldnt. Hope the next president just get away with him forever, if Trump survives his term (because of age)

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did they really classify Twitter as an "organised crime group"? Because that does seem a bit farfetched.

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have no proof but I suspect it is a mistranslation. The French legal term "bande organisée" literally means "organized crime group" but is simply the French counterpart to criminal conspiracy. That is to say, they are suspected not merely of breaking the law but also of having done so as a collective that knowingly planned for it.

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