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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What is it with Christians and pedophilia?

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As someone who grew up in a fundamentalist Christian household, and have been around a lot of "Christians," i think many of them become so fiercely religious because they think it will help them overcome "sinful" tendencies. For example, my father liked to drink and fight in his twenties. Around the time I was born he became fiercely religious. I've always assumed that was because he wanted to clean up his life to be a better dad. He stopped drinking but he found plenty of people to fight in his own house ....

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You trying to say that you think this isn't happening in, say, Muslim circles?

Cuz I have a really good bridge here that I'd like to sell and I'd just like to be sure you're interested.

All religions are abusive, and it's not only sexually.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh my God, somebody gave an example! Quick, let's call it a whataboutism!

My point is that ALL religions are used as an excuse for any abuse and torture and warfare and the most sadistic acts possible.

ALL religions are evil.

How is that for whatabout?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you don't want to be called out for using whataboutisms then don't use whataboutisms. Don't piss and moan because you were called out, it's pathetic.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm missing the part where you understand it's not a whataboutism as I just said, because they are ALL evil. Whataboutism doesn't work when referring to ALL options

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stop whinging.

I said something, you said whatabout something else. That's the literal definition of whataboutism.

Being called our and whinging then doubling down and whinging more is pathetic.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Okay, I'll be the one trying to be reasonable.

My single point is that this happens in all religions, not just Christianity. This is not to defend Christianity, this is to say it's everywhere. If extending that little circle you made to be bigger is whataboutism in your mind then please stay out of any discussions in real life because nobody will be able to say anything without you going "whataboutism!!!!!"

This is not "what about Muslims", Muslims were taken as an example, i might just as well have gone for hindi or any religion

The only religions I've found that don't suck are mock religions like FSM and the satanists.

Whataboutisms are also used to distract from the point, distract from the target, to protect the target. I'm not trying to distract you from the target; fuck Christianity, all of it. I'm literally just saying that it's much bigger than the specific group you setup.

If you still don't get that, then I don't know what to tell ya, buddy.

Also, if you feel bthe other side is whining then maybe you should stop responding as your response is then just whining back

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Your argument, if it is made in good faith, is not directly related to the post or the original comment. It is a distraction from the point of the comment which is that the Christians who go on an on about lizard people (anti-Semitic trope) and drag queens and gays abusing children are regularly exposed as the ones who are actually abusing children. The post and comment have nothing to do with other religions which absolutely have issues with abuse of children but it is absolutely whataboutism and likely intended to distract from the point of the post and the comment which is that this "save the children" christofascist was a pedophile like so many other christofascists, see Matt Gaetz, Donald Trump, and so many more.

Whataboutism. Stop whinging about being called out for it.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not necessarily all, there are plenty of what I would call folks religions that are more or less the eclectic tales and legends of a family or village that aren't abusive. The abuse only really gets to be a problem once you start getting organization of a greater degree than that one uncle who knows your kins oral history like the back of their hand.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is always abuse

Be it physical, sexual, psychological, or just by the way of control (because that too is what all religions are about), there is always abuse

What I'm talking about is a folk belief system that overlaps with theology, wherein the difference between culture, tradition, and what we call religion are so intermixed and overlapped that they are effectively inseperable.

The situation I am talking about is one wherein there is no religious control because there is no structure to control it with, wherein theological debate is not between priests but between kinsmen who are at worst separated by eldership. In such a situation the abuse is an outcropping of culture not religion, or at least is about as secular as you can get with such folk beliefs present.

Sorry I recently read an article going over pre Christian anamistic beliefs in Europe and it melted my brain. There is no religion just culture and traditions in such society.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Every. Single. Time.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago

Well, they really are constantly thinking of the children...

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

It's always the ones you most suspect.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

It's always the people you most suspect.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Hey once again, not a trans person, but a white Christian male.

[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

Love thy neighbor, no matter the age.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Anyone even remotely surprised?

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 6 days ago

then hes not christian

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

At this point, if you're a Christian it's not unfair to just assume that you're a pedophile

Same applies to all other religions, it's not as if this isn't happening in, say, Muslim or Hindu circles

Gotta love religions

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 165 points 1 week ago (13 children)

conservative christian activist

pedo

like a clockwork

[–] notsure@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...the orange menace has just rescinded a rule making priests tattle on kiddie diddling priests...

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[–] moshankey@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sepi@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago (7 children)

When's the last time a Drag Queen hurt anybody? I don't remember any incidents.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

June 28, 1969 Marsha and a few friends really hurt the fee fees of some fascist losers by having the audacity to stand up for themselves.

Thats the only thing I can come up with.

Rest in power Marsha.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

2008, Hess Village, a drag queen told me "you know clothes come in colours now, right?" It wasn't even part of a set — I was just walking on the sidewalk.

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[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 68 points 1 week ago

Hey look, another not a drag queen.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago

It’s always the ones you most expect.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So this guy faced 8 counts, with a maximum sentence of 10 years each. He pled guilty to 2 counts in exchange for getting the other six dropped. he's gonna go for some psych evaluation, maybe spend some time in jail, maybe not. He left his cushy gig, but I'm sure in a few months he will go on a public speaking tour about how repentant he is, the board will talk about how God always gives second chances, and he'll get back pretty much everything.

Meanwhile, there are immigrants who are being tossed out of the country by this administration for much more minor offenses committed 10 or 20 years ago (which they already paid the price for). They have been following all the rules since then, and now we decide we don't want them here anymore, and they lose everything they built here.

I think our values are all out of whack here.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

US morals have always been out of wack/hypocritical

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

It's always the ones you suspect the most.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Another drag quee— wait, no? Still not? Huh. Imagine that.

[–] GeraldOfHillwood@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago
[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Conservative Christianity is the most glaring sign that someone is likely a pedophile. I'm not surprised in the slightest.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If this surprises you even a little, I don’t know how to help you.

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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

Onion article incoming: "John Doe, former CEO of Eternal Love, not found to have any child porn in his possession. Police were astonished to find a squeaky clean hard drive in his office..."

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