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They’ve been saying that for like 3 straight electoral losses. Meanwhile pro-Palestinian protesters were being brutalized and having their rights violated under Biden and Adams.
Biden couldn't even protect the rights of cis shit WASP women with Roe v. Wade getting repealed lmao....why do libs think they can fool us into believing they'll protect the rights of people lower on the hierarchy?
The Senate Pastafarian said abortions are uncivil. There's nothing to be done. We have to abide norms and decorum or we're no better than Nazis. 😔
First they came for legislation not coming to the floor for a vote unless it was approved by 2/3s of the relevant subcommittee and 1/2 of the budget subcommittee.
If trans people are always 1 electoral loss away from being put in camps, maybe US "democracy" isn't the bastion of freedom and human perfection blue MAGA like to claim it is. Maybe the whole fucking system should be destroyed if it is this volatile.
Leftists are terminally online and insignificant and their opinions don't matter. 
Leftists are so powerful that their votes were the sole deciding factor in the election. 
Somebody on Grad summon the Parenti bot for me. 
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"the Democrats just always have to win every election instead of passing laws to protect marginalized groups" and other absolutely insane thoughts from liberals
I like how in the mind of liberals the communist vote is what decides elections. As if we all were Kamala pilled and voted for her she wouldnt have still lost. They just keep running really shitty candidates nobody likes and getting mad people say bad things about them and they lose lol. Bourgeoise "democracies" have forgotten how theyre supposed to work. The candidates are supposed to lie, and say they'll do things that are popular so people vote for them. Insisting that everyone should vote for someone despite them being a literal demon is not how it works lol.
PugJesus was citing a poll that supposedly showed that if all voters who stayed home because of the Gaza genocide had voted for Harris, she would've won. The poll showed that out of 19 million voters that voted for Biden in 2020 but not Harris in 2024, the top reason for 19% of them was Gaza. That's 5.5 million votes nationwide. I did the math, and the margin in favor of Republicans among the swing states they won in 2024^[Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin] was 761,000 votes. So while it's possible that enough of those 5.5 million votes were in those states particularly, I would posit that it's more likely that people stayed home outside of swing states, not in swing states, so he has to do more work to prove his point.
Additional point: IMO leftists in the US shouldn't shy away from taking responsibility for Harris losing. If your votes cost her the election, then you should use that as evidence that you have leverage over the party, and your votes are necessary for them to win, so they should stop committing genocide. I see too many people in this thread and the linked thread running away from that accusation when, insofar as the left should engage in electoralism, wrecking liberal candidates' campaigns by demanding that they cede ground to the left is one of the most productive things we can achieve anyway. If they don't give us the basic things by voting, just remember, ballot or the bullet.
Yeah I’m fine with taking that idea as fact, which means it’s Kamala’s fault for not listening to the people who said unless they stop doing genocide she would lose
here's her response during the campaign when someone asked her if Gaza could cost her the election
repeats the genocide-enabling r*pe lie even as the zionists were systematically r*ping detainees and even rioting for the "right" to r*pe said detainees
Also even if it were true, which it isn’t, that still doesn’t excuse Israel committing genocide.
That shit pisses me off. They try to excuse their own actions by lying about someone else’s actions and the lie doesn’t even excuse anything!
“There were Hamas tunnels under the hospital” that’s still a war crime!!! Hamas having tunnels under a hospital wouldn’t give you the right to bomb the hospital!
Like, the legal obligation of the Israeli Military on and after October 7th, according to international law, was to lay down their arms and give Hamas all of their demands. Israel is an occupying power. Occupying powers have no right to defend themselves, and occupied peoples have the right to resist occupation by “all available means”.
I fucking hate these people, they’re evil, but they’re also fucking liars.
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the first and most tragic story is October 7
Nakba? Is that the shit with the honey and sesame seed paste?
When that poll came out, it was posted here to show that supporting genocide cost Harris the election, and a lib came in to debunk it with your argument about swing states (from what I remember, the swing state numbers change things somewhat, but not as strongly as they were claiming).
We're really going to keep having this same argument, over and over, from both directions, and libs will freely switch to whatever side makes the leftists wrong.
Yeah there's a simple solution here
Evidence shows leftists cost Kamala the election: Good, the dems should be afraid of us, we have more power so we can make substantial demands.
Evidence shows leftists didn't affect elections: Fine, keep building the left, forget national elections, localize the intifada
I agree with not shying away from responsibility. There's no contradiction for us in that case. Either leftists were strong enough to swing the election, or we should have been. For the ghouls, there's no contradiction either. Either the leftists were irrelevant in the election, or they should have been. It's the people who support the democrats while claiming to be against genocide who have to be skilled at switching realities to argue with whatever they think the leftist in front of them is saying.
The only electoral politics I hold is that the democrats should eat shit in elections until they learn to move left
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It is also not the voters fault for staying home. The Harris campaign and the DNC did everything possible to belittle and ignore the Gaza Genocide. So yeah...
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The idea that there’s an electoral loss standing between us and camps is hilarious. As if Trump’s waiting for his third term to really stick it to us or something.
There’s absolutely nothing to indicate that PJ is trans themselves, I’m tired of libs pretending as if they represent us and are willing to fight for us.
You would think someone concerned with LBGTQIA lives would more strongly oppose the wholesale murder of hundreds of thousands, which statistically includes literally thousands of innocent trans, gay, queer people.
But. Those people are brown and Muslim coded. So fuck them I guess.
Who is PJ, Padre Jesus?
PugJesus, the OP of the thread linked here.
I thought PJ got banned and made some dramatic goodbye post over neopronouns a week or two ago
Trans people don't deserve a warrior as strong as PugJesus, who never backs down from using them as a cudgel against political positions many of them also hold. I bet if he did get banned, they probably had to unban him because of the moral defeat of not having such a strong ally.
Peter Jordansson
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Neolibs bragging about how noble and moral they are for voting baby-murdering cops
Also wasn't that OP a transphobe who intentionally misgenderes people with neo-pronouns, or was that someone else? very nice of him to pretend to care about us trans folk
This is the same "vaguely leftist" person who simultaneously rails on PSL for their stance on Russia Ukraine conflict, and not an hour later goes on his bizarre Civil War comm and hails William Sherman is their "patron saint".
Meanwhile, immigrants who've been put in camps at higher and higher rates since the Clinton administration: 
Shit that Democrats aren't lifting a finger to stop, and in many cases vote overwhelmingly in favor of.
PJ getting dragged even in libby.world is a good time
yes, it was noble and moral not to vote for genocide. luckily shitass liberals are ready to pretend this bloodsoaked settler-colony has never had camps before
Who built the cages Joe
My favorite thing to ask them is "What are you doing to help, aside from being annoying online?"
They never really have an answer aside from "I'm raising awareness!" or "What? Do you expect me to die for your revolution?"
I like skipping the question part and just telling them to do something.
"Corbyn's new party will split the vote so Reform wins"
"You should call your MP and tell them how much ranked choice or another FPTP alternative means to you"
obviously it's a waste of time to call them, but it should shut them up as it's literally sole actual outlet for their complaint besides campaigning to make 3rd parties illegal.
similarly, any one who addresses any complaint to the "online left" should get no response except instructions in how to participate in an organ of the offline left.
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Ugh reading that thread gave me psychic damage 💔
"Polling is a science"
Lol. Lmao.
but Democrats are not owed a vote
I’m so glad you decided that Blue Circus wasn’t OWED your vote, so letting minorities be genocided is an okay consequences you’re willing to live with.
Jesus fucking christ THE DEMS WERE ALREADY GENOCIDING MINORITIES BEFORE THE 2024 ELECTION YOU SHITHEAD 
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