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[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Delist thousands of games, or deslist a handful of payment middle-men?

[–] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

You know by now you might have to use crypto for yer sinful games.

[–] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

I think it's time for a game platform divorced from Visa/Mastercard to rise to the occasion and step in for these platforms. Websites without these processors already exist, so the model is proven to work well enough (it's less convenient for sure).

I wouldn't think the US would be a good country for this hypothetical store though. I think it's only a matter of time until they attack the publishers and studios directly. I'm not counting on the 1st amendment to help anyone.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 6 hours ago

Collective Shout describe themselves as a "grassroots campaigns movement against the objectification of women and the sexualisation of girls", but are associated with outspokenly homophobic and anti-abortion Christian conservative groups, according to a now-deleted Vice article. They recently claimed credit for the campaign that saw payment providers pressuring the online storefronts to remove content the group deemed unacceptable.

It's not hard to empathise with the folks behind Itch for being placed in an impossible position, but their lack of forewarning has left creators blindsided and in some cases, seemingly without income. "I wish we had gotten some warning from Steam and Itch," wrote game developer Robert Yang on Bluesky, "but we already know it's Collective Shout + payment processors waging culture war against LGBTQ people and sexual expression. I guess there's nothing else for Steam and Itch to say".

Personally speaking, I'd be willing to extend that good faith to Itch.io themselves, but they aren't the one holding the gun to their own heads here. That'd be financial companies, pressured by Collective Shout, who themselves have ties to an organisation whose CEO once described gay marriage as an "unspeakable offence to God". It's not difficult to imagine what kind of expression these groups might decide to deem as unacceptable next.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 16 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Well that is at least something Bitcoin could have fixed

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

At this point I would only try something untraceable like Monero. I don't want the moral police to come knocking to my house saying that I bought something against the glory of the Lord.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

And probably would have if it wasn't being manipulated by speculators.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is like shitting your pants to ward off bears.

[–] RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 7 hours ago

If shitting your pants is cool, then I'm Miles Davis.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 84 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Payment processors and financial institutions sure do seem to hold disproportionate amounts of power.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 6 hours ago

When governments allowed payment processors to dominate the market to the point of duopoly/oligopoly.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

And a single woman and her organization seems to hold a disproportionate amount of power over the payment processors.

I don't understand it. Payment processors could easily tell her to pound sand, but they don't.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

talk to anyone that works in the porn industry. Mastercard and Visa have ALWAYS been like this ever since the late 90s/early 00s. they set the rules for what the adult entertainment industry can produce and sell and only now are people discovering because of video games that they've been this way for decades.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Welcome to capitalism. 1 person and their company can influence an entire country while being top 10 retards.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 76 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
Collective shout finacials
year: 2024
revenue: 458043
employee_expenses: 107000
other_expenses: 215488
net_surplus: 135555
employees: 
  total_fte: 2
  full_time: 0
  part_time: 1
  casual: 4
volunteers: 15
donations_and_bequests: 389800
government_grants: 0
commercial_income: 0
expense_to_revenue_ratio: "70.4%"
average_expense_per_employee: 39400

Leadership
- name: Melinda Tankard Reist
  role: Founder, Movement Director
  public_socials:
    - Twitter: @MelTankardReist
    - Instagram: @collective.shout
  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
  salary: Not publicly listed

- name: Caitlin Roper
  role: Campaigns Manager
  public_socials:
    - Instagram: @collective.shout
  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
  salary: Not publicly listed

- name: Renee Chopping
  role: Campaigns Strategy
  public_socials:
    - LinkedIn
  public_email_address: r******@collectiveshout.org
  salary: Not publicly listed

- name: Lyn Swanson Kennedy
  role: Campaigns Strategy
  public_socials:
    - Instagram: @collective.shout
  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
  salary: Not publicly listed

- name: Coralie Alison
  role: Movement Operations Manager
  public_socials:
    - Twitter: @CoralieAlison
    - Instagram: @collective.shout
  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
  salary: Not publicly listed

Fuck.

These.

Fucking.

Shitsucking

Subhuman

Leeches

[–] Bubbey@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Lot of college-educated white women in these nonprofits lol

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