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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 32 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

People should do what they are comfortable with, but yes, if a guy wants to attract women, this is definitely a way to get what he wants.

I was part of the alternative scene and I also thought the goth-boy aesthetic was very attractive. All the girls did. To me, the most attractive thing a man could do to his appearance was to let his hair grow long. Like past the shoulders long.

Didn't have to put on make up and jewelry. Just have long hair and you could be fat or skinny, pretty or ugly. Didn't fucking matter. I'd look. If Henry Cavill walked down the street next to a nerdy guy with long hair, I would look at the nerd everytime. If he wore band t-shirts and military boots, it was game over. Only way a guy could fuck it up for himself with me was if he started the nice guy routine or was so socially awkward he couldn't talk to a girl. I have experienced both. The latter was a full date where the guy didn't say a word to me once and I was the one who had walked 20 km to get to his place because he had social anxiety and couldn't leave his home. Poor guy. I hope he's doing better today.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

When I was young I had so many hairstyles. I did ponytails, I did muffin-tops, I did mullets, I even did cornrows once. Having hair was fun.

The last time I grew my hair out I realized I was starting to look like Michael Bolton and chopped it off and donated it. Been shaved ever since. Growing up happens.

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[–] Bouzou@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Oh baby baby. Come to momma.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That person is a mystery to me...

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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I - a bloke - sometimes paint my nails. If they're still painted when I go to work you can guarantee I'll get a few comments from guys questioning whether they "should be worried" around me*. Meanwhile, the few women who work there think it's wonderful and have offered to do them properly for me. _ *they needn't be worried. My standards aren't that low

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 11 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I'd be outright ostracised, casted out, spat on if I showed up with painted nails/eye shadow to work here in England

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It depends so much on regional norms.

Out on the West Coast of the US, painted nails on men is very common, while usually an indicator of an "alt" lifestyle or a particular attachment to fashion, it's not entirely uncommon to see a dude in a suit with black nails and might only get a few passing comments like "Wow, you pull that off!" or "Haha, how does your wife feel about you using her cosmetics?" at worst.

But if you move East by one state boundary you literally might get cussed out or glanced at like a predator or worse, depending on how deep you go into small town mormon communities and the like.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 16 points 21 hours ago

I'm also in England, though in the South, where we're all soft fairies.

And yeah, the response can be annoying, but the way I see it, I'm a gobby, fat, mostly-straight cis guy who's married to a woman, so the abuse I might receive is nothing compared to some others. So if I can go any way at all towards helping to normalise something as benign as painted nails on a straight man, then I will.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When guys ask if they should be worried around you, do they expect women to be worried around them?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

Yes. And women should be worried around them.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago (14 children)

I wear black nail polish and skirts and still get zero pussy.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 19 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Same. Must be because I'm a woman, smh.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

I would think it would be easier, that being the case.

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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Guys: I want a goth girl with big boobs

Also guys: ew goth. GAY!

[–] Honytawk 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They just love goths.

Female goths: double attractive

Male goths: questions sexuality

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[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 121 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had a goth friend who would always get laid without much trouble. At some point he got a normal job and had to "become a normie", and I learned that it wasn't because he was a goth, it was because he was a complete asshole with women, and some women, for some reason, can't resist assholes.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (34 children)

Being an asshole implies confidence.

Women like confidence.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Inexperience and young girls mistake being a dick with confidence

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago (10 children)

When you say things like "some women can't resist assholes" it sounds like red pill rhetoric. A better way to say it might be like "some assholes prey on women's insecurities". Keep the focus on the person who is the problem, not the victims.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

How about:

Many men, and women, and every other kind of human, often mistake confidence and decisiveness ... for competence, reliability, trustworthiness, responsibility.

...

This is by no means totally specific to a sex or gender, it applies broadly, in all kinds of social situations, business relationships, etc, between all kinds of genders and sexes.

This innappropriate or overweighted heuristic tendency also tends to lessen with age, as people gain first hand experience and knowledge that this heruistic, this intuition, this assumption... is actually often not accurate.

...

Anybody with decent charisma, which a huge component of is an above average, but not overwhelming level of outwardly displayed confidence, stands a better chance at convincing most people of basically anything, intentionally or unintentionally.

Lots of overly confident people bulldoze into a situation, legitimately believing they were well equipped to handle it in an ethical way, only later to realize... oh, I am in way over my head, I fucked up.

Lots of overly confident people also just know they are full of shit, and intentionally bulldoze through, and then either gaslight about how they did nothing wrong, or just fucking vanish.

This again works beyond just interpersonal romantic relationships:

For every bonafide grifter con artist (crypto for dudes, cosmetics MLMs for gals), there is a well intentioned new boss or manager who basically accidentally fucks up the entire department out of inexperience and hubris...

And both of those are often aided by their natural, above average levels of confidence and charisma.

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[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

A better way to say it might be like “some assholes prey on women’s insecurities”. Keep the focus on the person who is the problem, not the victims.

idk I think that's needlessly condescending to women, not all of them dating assholes are victims, some just like assholes because they like asshole behavior because they're also an asshole.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

When you say things like "some assholes prey on women's insecurities" it's incredibly condescending, especially when you consider that women can also be assholes.

Like begets like. I've known too many couples where both of the people in the relationship are trash.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The amount of tone policing here is fantastic, everyone is finding something problematic about what is being said even though the actual effect is mostly agreed on

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[–] loudwhisper@infosec.pub 16 points 1 day ago

This also takes away agency from people. In fact, I am sure that there would be a way to diagnose every single relationship ever as a form of abuse in which someone takes advantage of someone else's something.

Adults are responsible for their choices, and particularly in the case of "assholes", that is often associated with being assertive, dismissive and some people just like that kind of "I am the main character" features. Maybe there are even some deep rooted evolutionary reasons for that, I don't know. Anyway, painting anything as victim-oppressor dichotomy IMHO is nonsense.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I still wear dark clothing outside of work, but I'm too old to be digging out the makeup these days. People really don't respect the time it takes, especially if you can't wear it in a professional environment.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

99% of the time if I notice a male coworker wearing nail-polish it's because they let their daughter paint their nails, which I think honestly should be a special kind of badge of honor that all men should strive for.

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