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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

More people need to learn about and think about externalized costs.

"This plastic cup is free! ... if I ignore the fact that it's going into a landfill or worse"

"This delivery is free! ... if I ignore the fact that the delivery guy is getting fucked by capital"

[–] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

More governments need to tax externalized costs.

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[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago (19 children)

I've lived several places. In some, I could walk to get food, and I gladly did so. In others, I could not.

Should I have starved?

If your argument is "you should have driven," then you are depending on cars. Whether it's the buyer or an employee doing the driving has little effect on how much a car is being used. The environment doesn't care who's burning the gas.

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[–] remon@ani.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What do you want to me to do instead? Cook myself all the time? Go outside? No thank you.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder if there's a human version of "pet food" but for humans, so people don't have to cook anymore.

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[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We looked at GrubHub and said no when the delivery fee and tip would've been more than our meal cost.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I don't get it either. That shit is so much more expensive. Not only are they charging you delivery fees and "convenience" fees, the base prices of what you're ordering at are also inflated through apps like Doordash and Uber Eats. Something that is only $5 if you went and got it yourself is now $8, plus a delivery fee, plus other fees. And then there is also a chance that the person delivering it is a piece of shit who just steals your food.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (7 children)

other countries deliver most things using motorbikes, it always sounded ridiculous to me to use a car to deliver food

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I mean its a thing useful for disabled people and even currently in NYC if the time limit to delivery was more variable a personal vehicle would be far from necessary given public transportation.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Isn’t most delivery in NYC done by bicycle?

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[–] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I can't be arsed to wait for food delivery. I'll pick it up if I don't have the supplies and time to cook it. I was thinking I want a CWS for om Taco bell, but I still have planned-overs in my fridge. Also, the upcharge on food delivery apps are insane. I'll bake a frozen pizza instead for 5 dolla.

[–] GenLe@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

The thing is that these types of services eat away at money anyway. It's better to go get the food yourself just to save yourself the money. If you must eat out rather than cook. Although, I understand that this may be more difficult for those who live in major cities such as NYC or LA, as examples. Food delivery has always been a thing for a lot of major U.S. cities. In my opinion, food delivery apps such as Uber Eats and Door Dash are not worth it or smart for many, if not most people.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The cost of eating out alone is ridiculous now. There's no way I'm paying an additional $30 to have it delivered, and risk the delivery guy eating half the order, having it arrive late and cold, or not showing up at all.

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