In fact, forget the AI
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Yea more like if CEOs want their company to be more successful pay people overtime to work five days a week.
As a non American can I say, does bernie ever actually propose plans or ideas or does he just go around shitting on bad ones?
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Corporate will do anything but. Part time pay, no full time benefits, no pay raise, and now you need a second job.
*20 hour work week.
Thw American workers productivity has gone astronomically high without AI. We should have 4 day week yes but we need the money from all this productivity first.
I recall one of the ways to enforce a 4 day workweek was to enforce OT starting at 32 hours.
You could keep working 40+ hrs a week but it would hit the owners wallets.
Combine that with raising minimum wage and you're getting closer to UBI.
Neither one would help me I think being salary and around medium working class.
That'll just make employers hire more employees with less hours.
The offset is ypu need to pay for overhead like benefits/HR/payroll/licenses/training for more employees. So there's a breakeven somewhere in there.
If anything it's more jobs.
They don't even enforce OT over 40 for salaried positions.
That's my point...
I think the plan is to lay us off altogether.
And support their lives through robust social programs, right? 
To save the working man you've got to put him out to pasture.
Soup is Good Food - Dead Kennedys
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Just like the industrial revolution and introduction of computers, right?
He doesn't get it at all. AI making people more productive means they can work more and you don't have to pay them as much.
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We are already more productive than any other time in history and we don't have a 4 day work week.
If we did get a 4 day work week, the owners would not scale our pay to accommodate for less hours on the job. 15/hr over 50 hours would turn into 15/hr over 40 hours, not 18.75/hr over 40 hours.
my favorite part of this comment is framing 50 hours like a standard work week
A 4 day work week wouldn’t change anything for people working an hourly wage.
This is talking about redefining ‘full-time’ at a legislative level from being 36 hours to something less.
So would this not be worse for, for example, people on partial disability benefits who are allowed to retain benefits while working part time but not full time employment?
If nothing changes for them but they are now registered as full time employees, they lose their benefits for nothing in return. Who would this help?
I don’t think the work requirements for disability work that way, or are tied to the same legislation.
It would help people who work full-time. People who work hourly already don’t work M-F 8-5 most of the time.
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Interesting. I was under the belief that disability benefit requiments basically meant "unable obtain and maintain full time employment due to a disability". After some research it seems it's more about how much money you earn than how many hours you work.
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Are you not conflating Part Time/Hourly and Full time/Salary?
70% of Americans work full time and just under 60% of American workers are paid hourly wage.
For example, every factory I've worked in has been Full Time hours with hourly wage pay.
It's mostly Managerial/corporate positions that are salaried afaik.
Not what is happening in Spain, nor would it make any sense to mandate that… And you work 50 hours a week?
I'm not saying that the law would require all wages to stay the same, I'm saying that without the law specifically stating that wages MUST raise to accommodate, they will stay the same, resulting in overall less payment. We can't even get a federal minimum wage increase, certainly not a full wage increase tied to an hours reduction.
Yes, why? The example would still ring true with a reduction from 40 to 32 hours.
But… like… do you think someone would openly campaign with a plan that fucks everyone over? I… I just remembered that Trump is a thing…
But yea, such law would necessitate that
how does a law force companies to scale wages instead of firing? At-will employment is a thing. How does a law also retroactively make all at-will employment subject to investigation if they dont scale wages and fire instead? What laws around the world accomodate this kind of situation?
Lots of people advocate for things that have unforseen consequences. Its not impossible for that to happen, no?
Keynes: work hours will diminish as production scale up
Bitcoiner: mining will be environmental friendly as we transition to green.
Bernie SSander: AI makes us so productive, we should get a 4-day workweek
Improved efficiencies should mean we all benefit across all sectors and ways of life.
But improved efficiencies actually mean none of us benefit except those at the top. We should all of us be paid more, have more time off, and have more excess - but at a high level we are all paid no extra, we get no extra time off, we get no excess - that all gets enjoyed by those at the top.
This is one of many reasons this should be a class war, not a culture war.
Sounds like what unions are for.
My local union is working six 10 hour days and then bragging how well they are taken care of. That's not out of the norm either.
The replacement of human workers begins with bipartisan support.
I don't disagree. Few people are better positioned to help make that a reality, however.
If I had to guess, the approach by corporate would be (if forced to give a 4 day work week) to drop hours to just below what is required for benefits. So, they would only agree if it meant they could get out of paying for healthcare and whatnot while at the same time having more authority for non compete agreements. I would absolutely trust whatever plan Bernie comes up with but I think there are very few additional politicians that have our best interests at heart.
If the government would skim a little off the top of its absurd military budget, corporate would have no hold over the healthcare aspect. Their heads would explode if that ever came to fruition. It won’t, but the US government never fully prioritizes the best interest for its citizens.
In a first world country they would have to say, nor choice over the will of the people…
bernie is the best ever bernie 2028
There's still too much work to be done.
How early do you guys think we were with the introduction of AI? I’d guess 5 years, at least.