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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember that this is the fault of the countries wanting to join NATO so they can help the countries defend themselves against Russia and anything else you might hear is western imperialistic propaganda.

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[–] BubblyRomeo@kbin.earth 30 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I fucking hate the fact that the lead developer of one of the most popular and widely used Fediverse software is a fucking commie and a genocide denier! Smh!

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Authoritarian bootlickers are not real communists.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.cafe 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Being a communist is fine, it's the simping for authoritarian regimes that are communists-in-name-only (CINO) and genocide denying

I'd bet a whole paycheck that if Russia was aligned with Israel instead of the US they'd be defending the Palestinian genocide instead

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will for-real never understand the connection between "I like communism and power for working people" and "I support China and Russia." The two statements simply have nothing at all to do with each other, they're not compatible. I've asked some of them to explain it to me, and the closest I've gotten to an answer has been more or less that they don't like the US, so they will support an enemy of the US, no matter how horrifying the enemy is or what crimes they are committing or whether they are communist or not.

Congratulations, guys, you invented CIA logic. It was one of the dominant forces making the 20th century worse, which is saying quite a lot, and now you're deep-throating it like you're training for an event.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, ultimately they are just hypocritically anti west. It's never any deeper than that. Even when they try to deflect claiming you haven't read enough theory. It's like brother, have you ever thought critically? I've read most of C.S. Lewis's books of fiction. But I'm not constantly expecting any lions or witches in my wardrobe.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. Even if they were just anti-West, it would be fine. I talked with someone around the first time Trump got elected who was super in favor of him, and he explained to me "The US keeps fucking up my country, and so if they put a moron in charge and he fucks up your country instead then (a) good (b) you deserve it (c) maybe then you'll leave us alone." I had absolutely no room to disagree with him. It made perfect sense.

But on Lemmy, it's never that. It's always "There is no genocide in Xinjiang you're just deluded by Western propaganda anyway it's all NATO's fault that half of Ukraine is a big rubble field and graveyard and Russia never lies, here watch Tucker Carlson and Dmitri Peskov, there's a couple of guys who've got their heads on straight." I guess it is cognitive dissonance, nobody wants to just say "Yes I am on team murderer because I don't like your government, and regardless of what I say or do my guys are going to keep killing Ukrainian kids, so what's the point of my trying to say they shouldn't."

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yep, I legit have no beef with anyone that's against the wests manipulation/exploitation of other countries/groups. Just those that would use it as an excuse or reason for others to do the same. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Really rooting for Piefed because of this

[–] one_step_behind@quokk.au 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I have an alt on one piefed instance, just waiting for Voyager to support it a little better

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fucking commie is fine. Genocide denier, not so much.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i wonder were they ever on reddit? any of these people and got banned from them and decided to make thier own platform.

[–] Green_Mouse@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was checking out Reddit recently, and there are plenty of tankies there, they don't seem to be doing so badly, so I guess you have to be a tankiest tankie to get banned there.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

im guessing if they are in thier niche subs, like a pro russia or china one they are safe. the mods sometimes can escalate the ban to an admin if they get pissed enough, the new thing is reddit has increased thier anti=spam filters.

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[–] Green_Mouse@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Join the lemmy.ml boycott

I've already blocked this... place. It might be a bit too much to block an entire instance, but their behavior is concerning.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Wait... you can block an entire instance?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

In the Voyager app it's under Settings > Filters & Blocks > Blocked Instances.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Yes, in your settings. Some clients give you the option to block right from the home page with a drop down, iirc. This should be available in Lemmy-UI ~~but I guess Dessalines would never approve it for obvious reasons.~~

Jerboa:

[–] kip@piefed.zip 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Ah, my bad. Thanks for that! Although it's weird that it's available in one UI but not the other.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

oh you can also import your block/add lists too from lemmy.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yes. i blocked the triad of tankies and any extremist posts/and porn. you can go to settings>BLOCKS(YOU CAN block communities, people, instances)

[–] Green_Mouse@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know about hexbear and .ml, but what's the third tankie instance?

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Green_Mouse@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh, darn, I forget about this instance! Thanks.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

i always forget about grad, we encounter .ml and hexbear the most if your not blocking them. .ml users do make appearances on occasion in other posts.

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just block that shithole and move on.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A couple of issues, on Lemmy "block" isn't block it's barely a mute. The only way to get a true block, is to be site banned by an instance. This is likely the way dessalines wants it, because it's quite ridiculous.

And it doesn't help retain new users who might not be clued in on needing to "block" them. Scaring away new users. It will only get worse, if everyone "in the know" block them, then who will be left to downvote and show resistance to their "viewpoints"?

And it still allows misinformation "articles" to spread and fester via the network, causing harm. To users, to the rep of the Threadiverse and its growth.

The only real answer is as wide a defederation as the rest of the triad is treated

[–] FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 3 points 1 day ago

if everyone "in the know" block them, then who will be left to downvote and show resistance to their "viewpoints"?

That’s the problem I have with communities with people of the same opinion, safe spaces, circlejerks

They will have a huge confirmation bias, be comforted in their beliefs and this might be harder and harder to revert, and might make people more extreme

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it's interesting that RT said that trump is Russia's counterpart. They're saying he's an authoritarian POS too.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

trump is basically copying putins own govt, install loyalist, have said loyalist constantly fight each other, so no one can oppose you, weaken the military/ economy to achieve the same effect, have your own secret police.

[–] milkisklim@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Eh. That's actually a pretty standard thing journalists do. What it means is that Both of them are presidents of their respective country.

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