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I fucking hate the fact that the lead developer of one of the most popular and widely used Fediverse software is a fucking commie and a genocide denier! Smh!
Authoritarian bootlickers are not real communists.
Being a communist is fine, it's the simping for authoritarian regimes that are communists-in-name-only (CINO) and genocide denying
I'd bet a whole paycheck that if Russia was aligned with Israel instead of the US they'd be defending the Palestinian genocide instead
I will for-real never understand the connection between "I like communism and power for working people" and "I support China and Russia." The two statements simply have nothing at all to do with each other, they're not compatible. I've asked some of them to explain it to me, and the closest I've gotten to an answer has been more or less that they don't like the US, so they will support an enemy of the US, no matter how horrifying the enemy is or what crimes they are committing or whether they are communist or not.
Congratulations, guys, you invented CIA logic. It was one of the dominant forces making the 20th century worse, which is saying quite a lot, and now you're deep-throating it like you're training for an event.
The difference between anarcho-communists and regular communists is that anarcho-communists beleive any means are necessary in achieving a communist society, even the violation of human rights and the rise of fascism.
They've deluded themselves into thinking dictators like Stalin, Mao, Putin, and Xi will at some point decide to benevolently create an equal society instead of holding on to wealth and power at the expense of their subjects.
It's really ironic these so called "Anarchists" love dictatorships so much.
Anarchocommunists believe precisely the opposite of this... read the conquest of bread. Anarchocommunists hate stalin, mao, putin and xi...
How is that related to anarcho communism? It makes even less sense because it has anarchistic parts to it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism
Yeah, ultimately they are just hypocritically anti west. It's never any deeper than that. Even when they try to deflect claiming you haven't read enough theory. It's like brother, have you ever thought critically? I've read most of C.S. Lewis's books of fiction. But I'm not constantly expecting any lions or witches in my wardrobe.
Yeah. Even if they were just anti-West, it would be fine. I talked with someone around the first time Trump got elected who was super in favor of him, and he explained to me "The US keeps fucking up my country, and so if they put a moron in charge and he fucks up your country instead then (a) good (b) you deserve it (c) maybe then you'll leave us alone." I had absolutely no room to disagree with him. It made perfect sense.
But on Lemmy, it's never that. It's always "There is no genocide in Xinjiang you're just deluded by Western propaganda anyway it's all NATO's fault that half of Ukraine is a big rubble field and graveyard and Russia never lies, here watch Tucker Carlson and Dmitri Peskov, there's a couple of guys who've got their heads on straight." I guess it is cognitive dissonance, nobody wants to just say "Yes I am on team murderer because I don't like your government, and regardless of what I say or do my guys are going to keep killing Ukrainian kids, so what's the point of my trying to say they shouldn't."
Yep, I legit have no beef with anyone that's against the wests manipulation/exploitation of other countries/groups. Just those that would use it as an excuse or reason for others to do the same. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Really rooting for Piefed because of this
Come join us!
I have an alt on one piefed instance, just waiting for Voyager to support it a little better
Wait, I can use my piefed account on Voyager? I didn't realize it could do piefed at all
Instances have to enable the API, but yes and it works about 95%. Replies only shows me messages, so I don't see comments other than that haven't noticed too much that needs fixing.
It shows me replies too. Actually I use it more than webui now.
Yup, pretty recently
Fucking commie is fine. Genocide denier, not so much.
Commies and "Fucking Commies" are two different categories. If we put them both on a spectrum, fucking commie would be at the extreme end while Commie would be at the lighter end. Dessalines is at the extreme end. Hence Fucking Commie!
We already have a term for what you're talking about, it's called being a tankie lmao.
I mean I was super happy to see when I first came to Lemmy and found out that communism and so on were common. It shows a healthy exchange of real differing views, it's more similar to the old internet or BBS culture where you can find people who are for-real doing their own thing, not just Facebook or Google News or whatever other nightmare that the chaotic landscape that used to be the internet has become.
Since then, I've gotten more familiar with them, and the shine has come off the rose a little bit lol. But I say that because of the particular breed of hard-authoritarian communism and all these dishonest and hateful ways of interacting that they all seem to have, not because I have a problem with communism.
i wonder were they ever on reddit? any of these people and got banned from them and decided to make thier own platform.
I was checking out Reddit recently, and there are plenty of tankies there, they don't seem to be doing so badly, so I guess you have to be a tankiest tankie to get banned there.
im guessing if they are in thier niche subs, like a pro russia or china one they are safe. the mods sometimes can escalate the ban to an admin if they get pissed enough, the new thing is reddit has increased thier anti=spam filters.