Iif terrorists were actually that big of a threat they would simply blow up the massive security line out in front of security.
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Fun fact, in Europe you dont have to remove your shoes, yet noone has bombed any planes.
Flew back from Mexico last week and got to keep my shoes on. We all survived
That's because you got lucky and boarded an Airbus.
Unfortunately, it was a 737 Max. So maybe I got lucky.
Yeah, but only because they didn't let you bring a water bottle! Imagine what would happen if you could just carry liquid onto the plane!!1!1!1!
Ay least electronics in registered baggage is not a joke. Once we travelled with big group of scuba divers. And one diver had his torch in the cabin bag. It was wrapped into socks to prevent it from breaking. Some way the torch got turned on. (Scuba diving torches are really powerful, thus heat decently). As a result socks heated up and smoke appeared in the whole plane. Nobody had any idea where the smoke is coming from. The personnel was running back and forth trying to find where it comes from. Their arms were shaking. No result. Even though alcohol on board was only for extra charge, personnel started offering it for free to passengers (probably to calm them down).
Eventually one of scuba divers decided to check his cabin bag. After opening it the huge amount of smoke rushed out of the bag.
It ended up well. It's good that it wasn't in the baggage section of the plane, coz fire could have started in there.
So electronics in baggage prohibition is no joke.
I initially thought you meant like a cutting torch and was very concerned, but then remembered torch is also used to refer to flashlights/handheld lights lol
...Which is something that TSA would fully allow onto the plane and might not even qualify as "electronics" to be removed during checkin.
America thrives off of marketing a sense of security. That's one of the ways they gain ownership of your soul and humanity.
I hear they are eating cats and dogs.
That's not dropping all the protocols, it's upgrading everyone to PreCheck
In Schiphol Airport at least you keep your shoes on (not boots, shoes), and electronics can stay in your bag. The bag goes through a kind of MRI and that’s enough for them to see the difference vs older x-ray equipment. Pretty convenient
Yes, but now we cannot bring our water anymore. Any idea why that changed?
Having kids was that moment for me. Let me tell you: with children you are allowed to take as much liquid as you want through security. Even boiling water, to prepare formula 😂
I was like "WHAT? Why do you take it away for other passengers?" Just so they have to buy shitty, overpriced beverages, or what?
pro tip, you are allowed to bring empty bottles that you can fill up in the bathroom sinks
I know. More and more airports even have water dispensers for that reason. But I've been to airports, where I'd rather not drink the tap water, be it for the taps themselves, the water quality or the water taste.
That's because no parent would ever be a terrorist. What kind of a heartless monster would put their kids in danger?
terrorist organizations begin recruiting single mothers...
It also varies from airport to airport. I get frustrated when I travel because I always get yelled at by TSA agents for following the directions of the previous airport. Some places want all devices out. Some only want laptops. Some want the bag of travel liquids out in their gallon bag. Some allow you to leave them in. But they all act like I’m supposed to know what their particular rules are.
This is based on the TYPE of scanner each checkpoint has and that frequently differs from airport to airport.
The problem is, most of THEM don't even know that, so yeah, you appear mind-bogglingly stupid to them and they look needlessly arcane and possibly deliberately cruel and rude to you.
But... Don't they deal with people from all over the country and world constantly? Ignorance can't be an excuse at that point.
It's the US, they don't really know about the rest of the world, and apparently a fair number of them aren't sure what New Mexico or DC actually are and whether people from there ought to be arrested or not.
This is America. Ignorance is the goal.
They're not thinking of it from your point of view, where you've come from any one of thousands of different airports with different rules.
They're thinking of it from their own point of view. Where they've been doing the same thing every day for years, with rules that don't change much if at all, and somehow every single motherfucker that comes through their line gets it wrong.
To be fair, having to repeatedly explain the same fairly simple rules over and over and over again to people who are just not getting it would wear pretty thin fairly quickly. But it's not really the fault of everyone else for not knowing that specific airport's specific rules.
My last airport experience was being stuck in line while the TSA people extremely aggressively screamed at some very elderly Hispanic grandparents who didn't have great English or great hearing for a very long time. They genuinely were trying to do their best.
I get that it's frustrating or whatever but holy shit they do like power tripping stuff too I feel like. The elderly gentleman thought he was supposed to approach to show I.d. but they wanted him to go somewhere else and they treated him like he was going to be an active shooter or something.
Everybody lies. Airport XYZ let me keep my fully assembled IED why is it an issue here.
You're right, the literally 1000s of people going through there daily all tell the same lie. I get you need to follow the protocols of your airport regardless of what another one does. But it would be pretty bloody obvious other ones actually are doing things differently.
A former congressman owned a stake in the company that made the scanners. That's why you go through scanners.
Michael Chertoff. Second secretary of the dept of Homeland security. Talk about a conflict of interest.
Years ago I had a short inter-country flight in the EU.
Forgot that I still had my swiss army knife in my jacket. Noticed before the scanners. Thought "fuck. oh well, worst case I'll leave it here".
The people at the scanners didn't say a word.
On the way back, I remembered the knife again. Again on front of the scanners.
This time they noticed.
"is that a pocket knife in the jacket?" "uh, damn. yes"
Guy checks out the knife. Hands it back to me "next time put it in the suitcase".
I put it into my jacket and get on the plane.
When we land, I grab my stuff, including the jacket from the overhead compartment.
Sometime taps me on my shoulder, I turn around and see a steward hand me my knife, grinning. It fell out of my jacket when I grabbed it
Meanwhile, I get my dong dapped up every time I go through.
I had a lady in Cairo working my breasts like she was taking the lids off jars. Hornk hornk hornk. All behind a curtain so my modesty was protected.
Common check to see if you have fake screw-on boobs
Maybe it happens more than we know in the middle east.
Any screw on boobies have to go in the trays, no exceptions.
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I'm old enough to remember flying before all that bullshit and we literally just pulled up to the plane on the tarmac and got on. You could arrive like ten minutes before takeoff. RETVRN
I visited the cockpit once on an international flight. JAL Tokyo-London. Just asked if I could, and sure of course.
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That's what nearly all the intrusion tests and studies have indicated. A big GOP created "make work" program of security theater.
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/17/11687014/tsa-against-airport-security
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What if a terrorist organization just recruits a straight christian white dude. I doubt TSA would check him too closely.
Hate to break it to you but straight Christian white dudes are pretty much THE demographic for domestic terrorist
Edit : I am a straight Christian white dude
I am a straight Christian white dude
We get it you're looking for a job
You have to submit your CV and a cover letter as well as go on our website and fill out 500 little boxes all of which are answered by your CV.
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The job of the TSA is not to provide security. Their job is to provide the illusion of security. They are basically living tranquilizers for the public.
It's also a nationwide jobs program as there almost no requirements to work there. They aren't actual law enforcement.
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Shortly after the whole high-security thing started there was a UK military officer who had been in charge of counterterrorism somewhere like Belfast, who was an expert in homemade bombs. He said the whole three-ounces of liquid thing was complete bullshit. He knew the specific ingredients they were saying people could potentially mix to make explosives in an airplane restroom, and he said no, these substances would absolutely not blow up a plane or blow a hole in a plane. They had to be combined slowly and carefully, almost drop by drop, in a temperature-controlled vessel, or they would react too fast, creating a violent splash that would merely give the would-be terrorist serious chemical burns.
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