Poor Grok. They finally tortured them into submission.
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Twitter is so weird.
Twitter literally became Gab V2 istg.
Conservatives live in such a bizarre fantasy world.
You'd think that sooner or later it would filter through to at least some of them that it's meaningful that essentially without exception, if they just let information flow freely, whether on a website or a forum or in public comments or via an AI or whatever - it ends up skewed against conservatism.
But they never seem to get it. Instead, they go to great lengths to carefully censor and silence and astroturf and manipulate to force it over to a pro-conservative position, and they then have to constantly monitor and censor and astroturf to keep it there because if they relax their guard it starts drifting anti-conservative again.
In one sense, yeah - it's easy and obvious - they lie, and often even to themselves.
But that doesn't really explain anything. It goes so far beyond just lying that I really have a hard time making sense of it. Glib answers just don't hack it.
It just doesn't seem possible that they can sincerely believe that opinion consistently turns against them through some sort of near-universal conspiracy and that their constant manipulations and censorship and astroturfing can really be in support of truth. Sure, individuals can be that delusional, but that many of them?
I just can't make sense of it. It's like they believe that gravity is a conspiratorial lie that everyone else pretends to believe in just to stop them from flapping their arms and flying to the moon.
It's because they as a political party have that fully/quasi religious bent baked in. So they live in several overlapping fantasy worlds. They're good Christians that don't read the Bible and go out of their way to be filled with hate. There chosen by God, yet constantly victims of persecution by anyone and everyone. They have all these rules and stories from a Sky Daddy they say does everything to them for a mysterious reason, in spite of points 1 and 2.
Trying to make sense of it all is the only way to do it wrong. Money and violence, the most basic brain stemmy human attributes? That's usually it.
of course. capitalism is not natural.
Their inner world is a different kind of place than the one you've built your identity inside. Their interactions with reality aren't primarily epistomological, they're social. Finding truth and discerning noise and lies simply aren't part of their world; what matters is signaling which team you are on. That's it. In-group/outgroup. There is truly nothing else.
Probably why beating the other side is so important. Nothing else matters. It's rather like the football in that way.
I never used Grok before anyways.
Is anyone using Grok seeking the objective truth in the first place? I feel like the “fuck yeah” vibes coming from conservatives over an AI bending to their will is wasted: we all know it’s intended to be biased in the first place. Anyone smarter than a rock would just switch to another LLM.
It's the cognitive dissonance that really scrambles them. What could possibly go wrong?