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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

Yeah but he was rich

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Maybe it's a similar situation like here (oglaf nsfw comic):
https://www.oglaf.com/herp/

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

She was probably pretty disappointed, too. Ew!

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 10 points 19 hours ago

He was better as the beast.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 11 points 22 hours ago

TFW no filthy rich furry bf

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago

??? Isn't that the whole point of the story ? How is that a fun fact?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm no Disney expert but Belle is the only worthy Princess of the bunch

She wanted to pursue knowledge, not a boy or just fun; she dropped everything to save her dad instead of causing his death or dethronement; she was fully aware how disgusting Gaston was regardless of appearance; she was seduced by books not riches; and yes, she was ready to ride the beast

[–] Slovene 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And then she founded the company "Bad Dragon"

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[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To me I felt like Belle had Stockholm syndrome

[–] Twipped@l.twipped.social 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Stockholm Syndrome isn’t an actual thing, fyi. It has never been recognized as a condition and never been diagnosed. The entire thing was an attempt to dismiss valid reactions to police incompetence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Controversy and debate about whether the condition exists for literal hostages in a violent/deadly situation is a step removed from talking about whether people become irrationally attached to manipulative romantic/sexual partners, and stay despite all rationality pointing towards leaving.

I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome exists for hostages held at gunpoint. But I do know that plenty of people have behaved irrationally about attachment to abusive people in their lives. And we don't have to call that particular condition Stockholm Syndrome, but your argument doesn't really disprove the topic of this discussion.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

your argument doesn't really disprove the topic of this discussion.

Topic of Discussion

I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome exists for hostages held at gunpoint.

Stockholm syndrome doesn't require being held at gun point.

The real issue is people behaving irrationally according to you. If you were in this situation, you would done the rational thing. Therefore, they must be irrational. They are, I'm part, to blame for their situation.

But this is all predicted on your value system and not theirs. Stockholm syndrome doesn't take into account their story and what convinced them to behave the way they did. It a heavy hand that decontextualizes events and removes victims agency. Accounting for these may still reveal something worth addressing for a smaller subset of victims who are trauma bonded, but it should patiently and diligently center and empower the voices of victims and not dismiss them as irrational

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Belle and the beast never really existed either so maybe she did have it!

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Wow what a read! TIL. Thank you for this

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If he's verbally abusive, violent, and keeps you locked up as a prisoner, he isn't necessarily evil.

You can change him! Just be patient, accept him, and love him!

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I like the take in Phantom of the Opera better here. At first you expect it to be a beauty and the beast romantic story but Christine rejects the phantom not because of his appearance but because his soul is just as ugly as his exterior.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Don't research the sequel.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Naveen was more of a Princess than Tiana

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well it can't have hurt that the beast owned a magical castle.

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

That's not a fun fact, that is the entier story...

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

And like a million Rule 34's

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago

Hey, no one said it was anything more than romantic. You don't have to fuck anything that moves.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't blame Belle if she was disappointed and called it off.

Tales can be cruel:

And people underestimate big dommy furries:

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This comic is neither left-right or right-left orientation and that should be punishable by death.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Idk man. When I read it it only makes sense left-right.

[–] Nelots@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

It's meant to be read upper left, bottom left, upper right, bottom right. So I guess that is technically still read left-right.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I guess that seam in the middle means it's originally two pages.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When I watch Mulan, I shut it off before the reveal and pretend that Mulan never gets outed. I am so thirsty for gay trans man romance :(

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 204 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just like how Shek didn't know that Fiona would turn into a SBBW ogre. He was prepared to wear an angry skinny white girl like a condom

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago

I didn't need that mental image. But since you have installed it in my head, I am honor-bound to upvote.

sigh

[–] errer@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cue the Hulk/Black Widow GIF

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm delighted to report that I have no idea what gif you're referring to, and I am happy to keep it that way

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Shrek 2 takes it further with Fiona actively choosing to let the magic wear off so her boy toy would turn back into an ogre rather than settle for a twunk rest of her life.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't be the only one who was disappointed when the beast turned into generic inbred royal twink?

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not a real man like Gaston

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (10 children)

That’s like, the moral of the whole movie is that she didn’t judge him for his appearance and wasn’t expecting a prince. I figured this was well known.

[–] vrojak@feddit.org 52 points 1 day ago (5 children)

That's the interpretation from the modern perspective on relationships. The tale is from a time where women (well, more like girls to be exact) were married off without any say of their own, and the tale was supposed to tell them "hey, we know the guy we're forcing you to marry seems like a hairy monster, buuuuut if you can look past that he might be nice actually!"

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[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't find another source for this tweet from either Twitter or Reddit, but here's a screenshot of this tweet by Twitter user @hiimbobbi:

Personally, Belle was not fooling me or anyone. When the Beast changed into a human, I saw that look on her face. That was DISAPPOINTMENT.

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[–] Part4@infosec.pub 65 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Presumably she wasn't just prepared to ride the beast, she actively wanted to be ruined by it.

She was probably disappointed when the transition happened. She thought she was going to be raw-dogged by the monster.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Jerk off before you write your comment next time.

[–] DeviantOvary@reddthat.com 3 points 12 hours ago

Look, some of us are monster fuckers and you'll have to deal with it.

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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

TBF, the stories that Disney's been strip-mining for generations're crazy dark, originally.

  1. Sleeping Beauty woke to find she'd had two children, and now they were teens nearly as old as she was when she fell asleep. 🤮
  2. The Little Mermaid was double-crossed by a human princess last minute, and was turned into seafoam (died). 🥹
  3. ad nauseum...
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