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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (13 children)

Look, I really appreciate the sentiment, but it's time to acknowledge that those non-voters are not "misinformed future allies" any more than the MAGAs are. They are either accelerationists or fundamentally broken logically, and which form their indecision takes makes no difference -they are enemies of progress all the same, and to the extent there is ANY hope for the future, it relies on building a path AROUND them, not WITH them.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

At least some of them need to be peeled off, however, considering the raw numbers. If there are no gains at all in votes for the anti-fascist candidate, that just means the fascists would continue winning, indefinitely.

... assuming, of course, elections matter going forward.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The ice cream no longer exists. It hasn’t existed for a long time, and no amount of wishing will bring it back.

I want ice cream, too. But before we can have ice cream again, we need to not die.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's QUITTER talk! I'm voting for Rocky Road.

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Brick on the pedal.

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[–] Signtist@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You're right - it's more like one group voting to drive off a cliff and the other voting to just drive really close to the cliff in case we decide to go off on some other vote, but so long as the cliff doesn't win now, we can focus on convincing people ice cream is the better option. We don't, and instead wait 4 more years to complain about the lack of ice cream, but that's a separate problem.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Jeez more of this b b both sides same stuff.

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[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

20 people voted to drive over the cliff. 30 people voted to fucking gun it and send that shit straight into the abyss. 1 person voted for ice cream but the cliff voters beat him to death. 50 people didn’t vote

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[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The people who don't vote don't care when it comes down to it. its like when people call Nazis Nazis as if offends them. Or when someone calls a gay person gay... It's just like... Oh okay.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One one hand harm reduction is nice, but on the other I have seen exactly nothing from Western politics these past few years to convince me that any harm is being reduced. The principle of harm reduction requires serious, productive action (so not canvassing and voter drives, for the love of God stop doing voter drives) to be taken during the period when the harm is reduced to push democracy off its collision course with fascism. When progressives don't take that serious action—or worse, actively shut down said action—they're simply kicking the can down the road, turning harm "reduction" from a credible strategy to a farce. I don't disagree with the principle, but where's the action necessary for any of this to make sense? Because as far as I can see, harm reduction in America was the farce version.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

One one hand harm reduction is nice, but on the other I have seen exactly nothing from Western politics these past few years to convince me that any harm is being reduced.

For fuck's sake, have you not looked around to see what's happened these past six fucking months?

The principle of harm reduction requires serious, productive action (so not canvassing and voter drives, for the love of God stop doing voter drives)

"Stop performing one of the core functions of harm reduction that attempts to reduce harm!"

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to be taken during the period when the harm is reduced to push democracy off its collision course with fascism.

Pointed out below. But I guess it's not fast enough for your tastes, so let's do nothing and usher in the fascists to power instead. After all, politics are like a magical pendulum, where one side winning means the other side must get an equivalent win eventually!

When progressives don’t take that serious action—or worse, actively shut down said action—

When the fuck are progressives shutting down serious action?

they’re simply kicking the can down the road, turning harm “reduction” from a credible strategy to a farce.

You're absolutely right. In the wise words of a political party canvassing for seemingly everything a good fucking third of the 'left' commenters here have come to adore, we're all going to die someday. So why not as soon as possible?

Critical support for harm acceleration! Fuck those minorities anyway.

I don’t disagree with the principle, but where’s the action necessary for any of this to make sense? Because as far as I can see, harm reduction in America was the farce version.

"We've managed to make 'socialism' into an acceptable word in politics and almost got a democratic socialist into a major party's nomination twice in the past ten years, in a country which has been immensely hostile to any socialist ideas for at least 70 years, and in an intensified period of anti-government right-wing insanity since 1980."

"Clearly you haven't been making any progress, shitlib! Time to abandon all levers of power to the fascists."

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