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[–] qaz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This image has characteristics of generative AI, but I'll allow it considering the importance of the subject (and because I didn't catch it before)

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

yhea, this is definitely a skeleton:

As much as I dislike AI, it's getting accepted into the norm. the genie is out of the bottle. We're stuck with it now.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 49 minutes ago

I find genAI imagery extremely uncanny and creepy, and I can't condone the usage of a system whose creators yearn for a day where companies won't have to pay human creators anymore and can simply funnel their funds directly into the pockets of giant corporations instead.

Additionally, commercial-scale generative AI is already destroying the environment in communities across the world due to its power use.

It's not something I can accept nor condone, and I will continue to shame people for facilitating the transfer of wealth and destruction of our environment.

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I challenge you or anyone else who thinks this is AI to try to duplicate the image using any standard gen AI tooling. Please post what you get, I fucking dare you.

This is 100% crappy vector art thrown together into a crappy infographic by hand, and that thing on the bottom of the skeleton is called a pelvis.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

those icons are definitely AI made

the text and composition, that's by a human. but those icons, AI

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Ah that’s fair, I can see where you’re coming from on that. Those icons could 100% be generated with AI given the right prompting.

In my book, they look way more like stock assets to me due to how generic the symbols are, and the consistent styling. The “army guard” icon is kinda sus because of the stick “gun”, but that can be read as deliberate ambiguity to appease potential corporate customers who don’t want gun depictions in their vector stock images, and same deal with the generic “six point star”.

You’d also think they’d have chosen some sort of more detailed depiction of “isolation & surveillance” than a megaphone, or a lightning head for “fear & control”. If any of the accompanying text was included in the prompt to generate these images, the output would’ve been completely different.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Well they aren't concentration camps, but even if they are, they aren't that bad, but even if they are that bad, those people deserve it, and even if they were innocent, there are a lot who aren't, and even if they are all innocent, we need to exterminate brown people"

[–] StThicket@reddthat.com 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, can't argue with stupid

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Its not stupidity, its just their excuses to hide their agenda

"Whatever, we need to exterminate brown people" is not stupid, just plain evil.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 68 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] huppakee 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

This might get me a lot of downvotes, but when ai 'draws' text it generates each individual letter which makes them a bit wiggly and often not on a straight line. The fact these are all grammatically correct sentences all on perfectly straight lines give me the impression this isn't raw output. Could be that the image was made with text later added on top though, but even the most advanced ai generators aren't this consistent with text.

[–] qaz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

AFAIK some new "AI" image generators also utilize LLM's to generate text overlays.

[–] Caketaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could be that just the icons are AI generated, or the whole image was fed through an AI upscaler/enhancer to sharpen the image.

[–] huppakee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could be that just the icons are AI generated

This is entirely possible. Could also be the whole image is ai generated, but the maker manually inserted the text (not so hard to erase the text ai would have generated) because AI messed up. You can for example first ask chatgpt to generate a text, but if you than ask it to generate an image with that text it will be all wobly and full of errors because of how the generation process works.

an AI upscaler/enhancer to sharpen the image.

There is no automatic fix of the first problem, because the ai spits out shapes that look like letters but aren't.

[–] Caketaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nah, nah, I’m not saying that the text was AI image generated in any way. I just suspect that the image (after the text was put in place by a human) was fed through some enhancer/upscaler. I remember seeing a comic a while ago that reeked of AI, but it turns out that it was a fully human-made comic fed through some AI cartoon enhancer (for… some reason? The original looked fine. Maybe to steal credit?).

I do doubt that any of what I described is the case, though. I feel like the text would look less crisp if so.

I do wholeheartedly believe the icons were generated separately still.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

So there are programs like Nightshade and Glaze that are used to give images an anti-AI treatment. These programs can leave artifacts if the intensity is tuned too high.

(Source: Wife's an artist that regularly uses Glaze when posting her art online)

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[–] RobotZap10000 48 points 2 days ago (7 children)

That """"human"""" skeleton in the fourth item gave it away immediately. Now that I look at it further, "Isolation & Surveillance" and a picture of a megaphone??? "Fear as a tool of control" with a lightning bolt in someone's head??? Did OP even read their slop before vomiting it here?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

The Star of David is fucked up, too. You'd think that would be an easy shape to get right.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also the color of the background. For some reason genAI uses that a lot.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I've seen so much AI slop with the yellow tinge. It's kinda hilarious that we're watching AI model collapse in real time but the bubble keeps growing

[–] RobotZap10000 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I reckon that it probably began with a lot of the training material being scans of aged paper.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

I've also heard theories that its related to lots of "golden hour" photos but ultimately (and this is one of the significant problems with machine learning) the specific cause is unknowable due to the nature of the software

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (8 children)

What's wrong with the skeleton? It's stylised of course as these sorts of icons tend to be, but generally correct. Pelvis, spine, ribs, head, etc.

The megaphone seems like a very good way to evoke images of an abusive overseer controlling the camp's prisoners using technology of the modern day, an effective image for a section on monitoring and control, no?

There is no standardised symbol for fear within a person's mind, so again, a stylised symbol showing a lightning bolt is fine. Especially given that it is likely there on purpose - think shocks. Shocks of a different kind you may receive under an evil oppressive prisoner camp system (imagine the sudden shock in ones mind as a guard shouts or lashes out at you, I would certainly consider symbolising that in this manner).

It's as if you've never looked at anything anyone's made with simple clipart and the like before, and assume everything must be extremely deep and custom designed by experts?

Even if this were made with the help of AI, I don't see the message being any less valid, just because the person didn't go download an image editor to a PC, learn how to use it, learn how to import SVG icons and research for the most appropriate ones, build the image and export it appropriately, etc.

Not everybody is as skilled or capable as you or I may be in producing something that we might consider simple. Heck, some people only have a smartphone, not everybody has the luxury of owning a PC and proper software, nor the time or inclination to learn such tools.

The message in this image is conveyed very well, and is relevant to the current fascist regime's actions in the USA (and indeed is a universally important message).

If you want to suggest it's bad (or "slop", as you so evocatively put it) just because you don't like the image creator used to put it to print, well, that's a weird hill to die on, to be honest.

You better hope your country never duplicates the USA's slide into fascism, or you yourself may one day end up in a camp... or worse. How quick to attack the people trying to raise awareness of these abuses of human rights then, I wonder?

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (7 children)

What's wrong with the skeleton is, that it has a second head where an ass should be.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago

So the opposite of trump where there is a second asshole in his face

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I think it is a pelvis on the left as others have said. I have to admit though I thought I was looking at two skulls, probably because I was biased to look from left to right so I just accepted the left one as a skull and then the right skull actually looks like a skull. My first thought though was that it was an abstract depiction of overcrowding, so it was intentional to show two skeletons pushed close together.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

The rib cage is also way too long, and wtf is that bone under the ass head

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[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Someone owns stock in AI 💀💀

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

TCC sounds too much like a golf tourney.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is fucking stupid. It's when you concentrate as group in a place. That fucking simple. And it's, it's always horrible

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

Concerts stress me out too with all that people concentrated in a small place, but I think I would be more stressed in Auschwitz.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, you mean Alligator Auschwitz that was just built in florida?

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Auschwitz was an extermination camp, not just a concentration camp though.

For now, it's much more like Alligator Dachau. That was the nazi's first and flagship concentration camp used for propaganda.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh that is so much better. /s

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I mean, yeah? An extermination camps is arguably several magnitudes worse than a concentration camp, isn't it?

That doesn't detract from both being horrific.

Hyperbole and analogies are just two conflicting figures of speech. The overall message is weakened than if either is used by itself.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

6/6. Nobody does fascism like Donnie does! Everybody says so. Beautiful fascism!

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