American politicians form third right-wing party.
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American politicians form third reich ~~right-wing party.~~
The USA is a one party state, except with typical American extravagance, they have ~~two~~ three of them
uniparty its more or less a coalition of the oldguard and the old dnc, and maybe maga on some issues.
Yep. There's only one party in USA: the fascist party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
I'm sure kamalacaust will come out of the woodwork to stop this tho... \s
not left. not right. rigehft.
“The Republican Party, as many of us know it, no longer exists,” said one source, who asked not to be named. “We do not recognize ourselves anymore in Trump’s administration. There is a strong movement out there in the party to reclaim the values we were raised on and reclaim the middle ground.”
Translation: "Omg can you believe this leopard is eating my face? Now that I'm personally affected by my own stupidity I want to be friends with Democrats!"
This is a good thing. Don't mock people for realizing their party has abandoned them and acting accordingly.
Better late than never, but we need to support this ideal.
I'd have an easier time agreeing with you if any one of them had shown even a bit of spine against this fascism.
and reclaim the middle ground.”
Bullshit it's good, it's a farce to make the "middle" somewhere between the right wing Democrats and the ultra right wing unhinged fascists of the Republicans.
None of them are going "Damn we shoulda listened to Sanders."
They've learned fuck-all.
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Workers need to, not the politicians that made this happen.
Nah fuck that. They did this. This isnt Trump vs Everybody. The camps are already up. they dont get come back feigning ignorance without even apologizing. They just want a pre 2015 status quo.
I mean, hell, if the right wing Dems separate from the progressives and join the less-crazy-than-maga centerish Republicans and they go play in corporate-funded Neverland that hopefully no sane voter would touch with a ten foot pole, a real progressive party might actually become a possibility. It'll isolate the magats and push them back into a hole, we may get a more moderate conservative party that could be open to compromising again, and hopefully a coalition of real progressives can begin putting forward some much needed ideas.
The key will be ensuring that that progressive party is funded well enough to compete with the corporate money that is pumped by the truckload into that new coalition (which will be a feat in itself).
I dunno, just anything to get these fucking fleas out of our politics.
The key is Campaign Finance Reform, which is the issue from which ALL other issues arise.
We need to get money out of politics.
A democracy needs many things to work properly, and they're all broken. Now that cryptocurrency exists, every politician needs to be regularly audited. With First Past the Post, we're pressured into voting for people known to accept bribes. With gerrymandering, Republicans draw lines around the 26% support they actually need. Even the elections themselves need to be end-to-end auditabile.
Bullseye. While I agree campaign finance reform is a huge step, there are a number of things that need to change to get ourselves on the right footing. The big one in my mind is anti corruption laws that actually have teeth.
And ALL those problems continue because there are wealthy entities willing to donate ANY amount of money to influence as many campaigns as possible. Right now, they see their re-elections as dependent on getting as much money as possible, so all their efforts are directed at the most wealthy.
But take money out of politics, and suddenly the ONLY election currency is every citizen's single vote. Instead of appeasing a few very wealthy donors with important legislation that benefits only them at the expense of everyone else, they will be forced to support wide-reaching legislation that helps millions of citizens, in hopes of attracting their votes. Take money out of campaigns, and a wealthy person has equal political power as any other citizen - one vote. This is what the Founding Fathers were really talking about when they declared that all men were created equal.
third parties just can't win under the current system. we'd need ranked choice voting.
the way forward is through the primaries. that's how we got Zohran.
theres also the fact that MSM will be issuing propaganda against 3rd parties or dont even report on them at all, giving them less airtime.
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And somehow, just somehow, his bills get passed.
They are concerned, but not concerned enough to risk losing reelection by going on record as being concerned.
They literally have zero values…
They said the same thing after Nixon... and after Reagan... and now after Trump. Moderates will eat it up and we will end up worse on the next cycle of debauchery.
Even if some unholy combo of the right and the slightly less right us what we wanted, this is literally just plotting for the spoiler effect
It looks like they're trying to capture "the center" - which side will be spoiled more?
But mom says we already have conservative party at home
We have two conservative parties at home!
A real simple fix would be ranked choice voting.
fix
Which is why it won't happen.
After Mamdani, they're scared as fuck of ranked choice elections.
They already were. The right has been sneaking bans on ranked choice voting into many red state legislations for many years now.
You may be thinking "how could they convince people to vote against ranked choice voting?!" By piggybacking on xenophobia of course!
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I live in uber-blue Oregon and the Dem politicians here rallied against it and got it defeated on the 2024 ballot.
Same here in Massachusetts back in 2020.
It's not necessarily a GOP vs Dem issue, it's dominant parties worried that giving voters more choice will weaken their control.
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it's already been explicitly outlawed in several places.
Then we'll have to support it on a federal level too.
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The old school dems will team up with the majority of Rs and nothing will change. Anything to keep progressives from taking power.
The old school dems will team up with the majority of Rs
Already been happening for a long time.
nothing will change.
Already living under increasing fascism.
That would turn the Democrats into a progressive party, which would have nation wide positions, proper party infrastructure in every state and some funding systems. Given how few vote for third parties, that would be a huge win for progressives.
"Vote blue no matter who, but also we'll leave the party completely at the slightest hint you want to reduce income inequality and fix the broken social safety net."
Edit: Actually, good, fuck em. Why should the left need to start its own party. We're the Democrats now. Any Democratic official who leaves the party for this should be abandoned forever.
Fuck that. Dem leadership has abandoned the people. The Democratic and Republicans are finished
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Yeah, nah, we're good dawgs. The democrat-republican third party would just be what the Dems are now - a right-of-center status quo capitulation party. Fuck every single one of you and your mothers. Have a good day.
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This seems like a trap that will enable the MAGAs to win more elections without a majority of votes.....
“We need to get back to our centrist roots. This authoritarianism is hurting profits” said the capitalists en masse
The article doesn't name names and only mentions "centerists." Those can all fuck off and make their own party. It will split the republican votes the most.
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