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I'm not a mod of any comm and I'm just a regular user. But in light of current GOP events I think we all need to be extra careful not to fedpost. We are going be under an even stronger microscope. What law enforcement (FBI, etc) views as "violent threats" is going to be far different for us than for chuds at a site like StormFront2Trump2028.com.

That's all. I don't mean to start a struggle session. I just thought it needed to be said.

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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll fedpost for my American comrades because I don't live in AmeriKKKa

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 21 points 23 hours ago

Hey FBI, check this out:

spoiler

DEATH TO AMERIKKKA

spoiler spoiler Death, Death to the IDF ::: :::

[–] RedRook1917@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

MAN I CANT WAIT TO KILL

spoilerthis 6-pack of beer on the 4th of July to honor our brave soldiers and police

[–] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes I doom because I'm not "seeing" much resistance (other than lib stuff) but then I have to remember that the internet is very censored now, and people are being careful about what they say. I'm kind of isolated and not in any condition to be in an org, so my window to the world is whatever I see online. I feel like it used to be a clearer picture but now with all the [Removed by Reddit] it's getting foggier and foggier. I have a gut feeling, and I hope it's not just cope... but when Luigi happened, the system took a few days before it could catch up and filter out the genuine reaction of the people. For a few days you could see the unfiltered, un-astroturfed reaction of regular people to what happened. They were overwhelmingly on his side. I mean, he straight up zeroed a guy. And the whole country was celebrating. That's something. Something really big. So either I'm crazy, or people are really logging off and... you know. That this quietness and libness isn't just people giving up or being helpless, but rather it's like the tide going way far out and everything getting real quiet, before the tsunami hits.

[–] Beetle@hexbear.net 16 points 23 hours ago

You’re absolutely correct that what you see online is not a good sample for what the general population thinks. This has never been the case but with AI presence on social media and censorship it is especially so.

I believe that the idea that social media shows what most people think is one of the things holding us back as worker class because it makes workers falsely assume that some of our positions are not popular.

For example it’s why some unions (in Europe) refuse to talk about Palestine because the internet makes it seem like a controversial topic while it actually isn’t.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 6 points 19 hours ago

After god, country, and family, what I love most is propane and propane paraphernalia.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Man, I sure hate the bad stuff in Gaza but I do believe Israel has a right to defend himself.

Anyways, after work today, I was going to go to Applebee's to enjoy their 2 for $21.99 menu, anyone else want to come?

Man I just love generating shareholder value

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best system we got and anyone who thinks differently is wrong.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely, I mean how else would there be the iPhone?

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What are we, a bunch of Venezuelans?

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

{I like my chicken friend cold beer on a friday night pair of jeans that fits just right and the radio up|death to america death to america death to america death to america death to america death to america death to america death to america death to america death to america death to america}

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Why isn't this an emoji, this is important

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 11 hours ago

Hundred percent should be it's so good

wtf that used to be 2 for 20 i'm going to redacted in minecraft

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyways, after work today, I was going to go to Applebee's to enjoy their 2 for $21.99 menu, anyone else want to come?

I heard about that place while watching news coverage of the war in Ukraine (who I support btw)

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

Yes, Ukraine is the bulwark for Europe against Soviet-Style Putlerism and my 3rd favorite country, behind USA and of course my eternal #1 Israel

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

What's great is that after a long day of generating shareholder value, we can go and offer the shareholders some more value at such a reasonable price!

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Boy howdy I sure do love the CIA and how hard they work to protect us. brb I have to drive my Ford F150 XXL Supercab Deluxe to the gas station for my daily gas tank fill up.

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago

more half measures walter

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

I promise I will be good communist. No more fedposting for me. sadness

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're already interpreting any criticism whatsoever of Israel as a threat, they're going to come after us no matter what we say.

Practice opsec. Only browse on a VPN, don't post selfies, don't reveal where you live or work.

[–] VibeCoder@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People here generally threat model the situation where someone has their Hexbear account handle and wants to attach it to their legal name. Which fair enough. But if LEO gets into my phone and I’m logged into this account in my browsers and my tabs are full of Hexbear tabs I’m gonna get questioned about that too. Might be time to practice for both cases.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't use biometrics to unlock your phone, encrypt it with a PIN, the longer the better. And don't use something obvious like your DOB or anniversary. Ideally you could generate a random 10+ digit number and memorize it. If you know the cops are about to arrest you turn your phone off if possible. If they ask for your PIN tell them to fuck off and demand your lawyer. Make it as hard as possible for them.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i never log in on my phone for this reason

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago

I'll be real. If I am gonna get got it will be for irl organizing not hexbear posts. Still I will try to avoid fedposting, I do have a history of it

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Also be careful if you live in germany-cool france-cool, really any of the nato-cool eu-cool and especially ukkk. At least in the EU, you still have some modicum of safety because you could simply go into another EU country if you're a citizen of any of its member states. ~~Even Germany won't slam you with a decade-plus sentence and you may even have grounds to seek asylum elsewhere with evidence of persecution if push comes to shove.~~ Ireland or Spain if you're fortunate to have enough money to weather hard times, South Africa if you're extremely strapped for cash.

Edit: So Germany is emulating the US and doing Hitlerian stuff yet again, huh? Crossed out the part where it suggested there was some meager sense of safety in trying to escape to freedom, according to the reply by RedSailsFan

By the way, note that while you are 100% free to chant "Glory to Hamas, Glory to Ansar Allah" while also reciting the Sarkha and setting the piSSraeli flag on fire during the routine protest in any major South African city (which will probably be Johannesburg because that's where the plane lands and the ticket is half the price of Cape Town anyway), you aren't getting asylum in South Africa if you get arrested in Berlin for chanting the above example or your Hexbear posts get leaked. On the other hand, if you get detained/arrested for journalism, participation in now-prescribed groups under illegitimate pretences or even doxxed by pro-Zionist organisations as they become increasingly violent/emboldened, then that's a pretty solid case for asylum. Once you see the multitudes of the iridescent flags and a distinctive statue (Oliver Tambo) as a centrepiece with a Keffiyeh tied around its neck, you're home free. Someone like Tony Greenstein and Richard Medhurst would absolutely be guaranteed asylum in South Africa, should they ever choose to. It's also immeasurably safer. Permanent residency after 5 years and officially a South African citizen after another 5. A lot better and faster than 14 years of being falsely incarcerated without due process.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even Germany won't slam you with a decade-plus sentence and you may even have grounds to seek asylum elsewhere with evidence of persecution if push comes to shove.

they came up with a way to get around this https://hexbear.net/comment/6287311

@yanisvaroufakis

It seems that our rulers, here in the 'liberal' West, have homed in on a new way of turning a person into a non-person. Here is a man, Hüseyin Doğru, a German journalist (of Turkish origins, but not a dual citizen) whom the EU authorities have found a novel, immensely cruel, way of punishing for his coverage of, and views on, Palestine.

The German authorities learned a lesson from my case. Not wishing to be answerable in court for any ban on pro-Palestinian voices (similar to the court case I am dragging them through currently), they found another way: A direct sanction by the EU utilising some hitherto unused directive, one introduced at the beginning of the Ukraine war, that allows Brussels to sanction any citizen of the EU it deems to be working for Russian interests. Clinging to the argument that Hüseyin’s website/podcast used to be shown also on Ruptly (among other platforms), they are using this directive aimed at an ‘anti-Russian asset’ to destroy a journalist who dared oppose the Palestinian genocide.

In practice, this means that Hüseyin’s bank account is frozen; that if you or I were to give him cash to buy groceries or make rent then we would be considered his accomplices and subject to similar sanctions; it also means that if he were a civil servant, he would be fired; if he were a student he would be expelled from his university; if he received a pension it would be suspended; if he received any social benefit it would be frozen. It also, astonishingly, means that he cannot leave Germany! Last, but definitely not least, it means that Hüseyin cannot sue his government for turning him into a non-person but only challenge the European Commission in Brussels – where he is not even allowed to go!

Need I say more? Is it not abundantly clear that we live, today, in a nominally liberal Europe where, in a jiffy, your political and human rights can be rescinded, including your right to challenge your government in a court of law?

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

So Hüseyin Doğru is a citizen of Germany, with a passport and/or a EU ID (assuming they haven't been confiscated, but then again...)

What would happen if he still crossed the border, made it to Belgium after hoofing it a few kilometers and proved his EU citizen status? Are Belgian authorities going to turn him over to Germany, nullifying any prospects of challenging the EC directly or seeking asylum elsewhere?

Most inter-EU borders are very open, with border crossings being little more than a cleaner American highway rest stop, occasionally intersecting small towns with the only distinction of a border being a blue EU sign and a bilingual message advising having ID on you (Unless Germany is tightening it's EU borders because of turboracism and orders from Tel Aviv's Gestapo).

As for any other pro-Palestinian journalists within Europe, is it now a valid consideration to start forming a line in front of the nearest South African embassy?

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

What would happen if he still crossed the border, made it to Belgium after hoofing it a few kilometers and proved his EU citizen status? Are Belgian authorities going to turn him over to Germany, nullifying any prospects of challenging the EC directly or seeking asylum elsewhere?

im unsure tbh, it sounds viable but then again the whole thing is barbaric so maybe they would actually just send him back to germany?

[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

You'll never take me alive you robotic sombitches.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

dont type anything you wouldnt want read out in front of a court room etc etc

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago

But it would be funny to hear a lawyer try to read out "unlimited genocide on the kkkrackkkerverse"

[–] VibeCoder@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is more and more important as agents are increasingly going through people’s phones at airports. They’re checking all social media, browsing history, photo albums, etc. If you’re an American citizen you technically have a right to say no as long as you’re not using biometrics to unlock the phone. But you can expect a really long detention if you refuse. And this stuff will not be staying isolated to airports or to non-citizens.

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah so I was wondering about this—they’re searching Americans cellphones as well? And if they find, say, a JD Vance meme in a WhatsApp group chat, what can they do to you about it, I guess make you miserable by searching you for hours in secondary?

There’s a real horrible level of liability going on here where stuff that most Americans think is legal is being treated as a crime by CPB, to the point where it’s even almost retroactive crime, ie the fact that you said free Palestine 5 years ago means that you lied on your customs form 2 ‘’minutes ago when you said “you don’t materially support terrorist groups” because CPB has decided that Palestinians are all a terrorist group and that a typed tweet counts as material support.

I understand how they get away with this when it comes to visitor visa people like that Norwegian who got bounced over the Vance meme, because they have huge legal leeway to do whatever with non-citizens, but I’m less clear on how they approach doing this to standard US citizens, so curious if you know?

I saw that memo about going after naturalized us citizens guilty of “crimes” so it does seem like it’s basically open season on everyone very soon.

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

but I’m less clear on how they approach doing this to standard US citizens, so curious if you know?

No one knows. Not even they themselves know. It's being actively developed and the policy and envelope actively and steadily pushed forward further and further. What the situation is now probably won't be what the situation is in 12 months.

The thing is as a US citizen they cannot deny you re-entry to the country (if you're non-white I wouldn't be positive they wouldn't try in the future to some amount of such people to detain and possibly deport them or something but if you're a citizen by birth at least that's a lot more difficult even then). They cannot hold you without charging you for more than I think 48-72 hours, one of those though I think unfortunately that might be guidance within the agency rather than law so they could possibly in future push and stretch that period out but at that point we may be through the looking glass entirely. They can take your stuff and resisting them by refusing to unlock your phone will be noted and probably result in future searches and enhanced scrutiny but then again may not.

In most cases in the past (things are changing obviously so who knows where this goes) refusing to unlock your phone as a citizen resulted in detention for a few hours which was considered punishment enough as by then you'd miss your flight and have lost hundreds or thousands of dollars. There were exceptions of course like whistleblower journalists, genuine criminals like pedophiles, etc.

If it's just those airport security TSA people they probably won't do a thorough search and most likely will just briefly look through your photos and apps including messenger apps and emails for maybe 5 minutes looking for super obvious crimes in front of you BUT if they take it to another room or its CBP or ICE they might try and use a graykey or other hacking device on it to download the contents or even in theory install malware as well. You have no way of knowing what direction the search will go once you hand over your unlocked phone so that's the problem and you can't exactly demand it back. They could start out searching it in front of you casually and take it out of sight to a back room with a hacking device and you'd be powerless to do anything about it.

One trick that MIGHT work (be careful, lying to these people could be a crime, I am not a lawyer, check with a lawyer) is saying it's a business phone. If your trip is for business this holds more weight and in most cases they'll give up because companies have rights to keep secrets that the government respects a lot more than the rights of their disposable proles. This works better for laptops as phones they might still assume you can unlock in order to use it. This won't work if you're specifically targeted.

Make a plan before you travel. Are you okay resisting them and accepting the consequences? How far will you resist? Will you really accept missing your flight? Will you accept missing your flight and being detained for 48 hours? Will you accept that plus them confiscating your phone? If you decide you might bend the knee if detained then decide what you need to do to minimize harm like deleting all your social media and chat apps off your phone BEFORE traveling (to reinstall on the other side) so that you're comfortable being able to unlock your phone and hand it over. Be warned some encrypted chat apps won't back-up their messages, look into the specifics of each one. The best thing to do is of course erase your phone before traveling and restore on the other side or when you get back home from back-ups. Have an explanation ready for why your phone is blank though, you had a problem with it for example and had to reset it. Try and create some activity on it so it looks a little lived in.

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

Lots of excellent info here, thanks for the detailed response—appreciated. When I went to China a while back, I brought and old iPhone I still had and got a Chinese sim so I could search and navigate—idea being ok I’ll sever iCloud and they can mine whatever they want off the phone, etc. the thing there was not immigration I was worried about, but having my phone compromised via the sim/software, so I still had my main phone also at the time, it was just offline and turned off mostly.

Almost makes me want to adopt a similar approach for any travel where I’m crossing boarders now—just kit up the old phone with a pay as you go sim, strip out anything non utility on it, etc. probably wouldn’t help that much for any really intrusive hacking stuff they would do back room, but might be boring enough to not interest them.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

minecraft won't cut it anymore

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Another question I have that is related, I guess, but are their ways to safely or anonymously donate to causes? And I don’t really just mean to like Palestinian Aid stuff (which I’ve heard is notoriously hard to do in the first place because they spend so much time chasing it and getting platforms and banks to refuse to engage with it) but I’ve gotten increasingly more paranoid that the admin will declare environmental groups or civil liberties groups terror organizations at some point, and one’s casual donation to southern poverty law center or whatever will now be something they use to try and get you, etc. not supporting causes is precisely what they want, so it would suck to give up on that, but then I realize I don’t know if it’s even possible to donate anonymously for real to any NGO etc.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago

This is one good use for Crypto

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Cash in an envelope without a return address? Extra paranoid drop it in a city/neighborhood mail box collection point rather than from your home. Just make clear on the inside that it's a donation.

Other than that there's crypto with CERTAIN currencies IF they accept it and IF you use non-KYC means of acquiring it which is itself a whole pain in the ass and journey.

There's also buying a gift credit card for cash at a grocery some distance from your home that you don't normally frequent, registering it under a false name and using that though you'll be paying $5-$6 to the CC company as a fee for the privilege and some services may not accept those.

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

Yeah good thoughts—certainly for local/domestic cash would probably be a good way to go.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I feel like you’re addressing me ( I know you’re not) because I made a fed post earlier today that was modded out. I usually try to stay ‘PC’ but I couldn’t help it.

I’m with whoever said they’re going to fuck you regardless but I agree that discretion is probably preferible

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait, I must be confused, then. I thought fedposting was when a fed is posting and pretending to be a genuine user of the site. What is fedposting, then?

[–] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is that but it's also like, when you post something way too violent that could get you in trouble. So it's kind of like blood in the water for sharks, you'd be attracting feds, so 'fedposting'.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

That makes a lot of sense, thank you

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah try not to make actual threats on anyone or anything but I imagine musing "gee I wish this person or thing would get got" is allowed?

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

none of us is king henry so wishing to be rid of a specific official isn't a threat

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

mfw when no one is ridding me of a turbulent priest kitty-birthday-sad