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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why should they be focused on it? Xbox is now just a slimmed down Windows pc. You can play the exact same games on a pc, with access to the same storefront.

What’s the problem exactly?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Microsoft's original plan was to own the living room the way they own the office space. Not just gaming, but all your movies, TV, shopping, etc. could be done through the XBox.

Kinect was a particularly big jump in that regard. There were demos of AR-type stuff where you could see yourself wearing clothes you might want to buy. You could move around and the clothes on screen would move with your body. There's some promo videos of that, but nothing concrete ever came of it.

Now they have slagging sales for two generations, and a AAA industry that struggles to make a real hit and is laying off a lot of people. They can't even hold onto the core gaming market much less get their tendrils into the rest of the living room. They then release a handheld that's basically an upgrade of an existing handheld that wasn't selling very well, but now with XBox branding.

Is this a problem for the rest of us? No, not really. There's plenty of alternatives, and we don't need to care. Is this the result the money people at Microsoft envisioned when they started this ~25 years ago? No, not at all.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The end goal of all of that is to sell software. If they can do that without supporting a massive pipeline for selling custom hardware, that makes sense.

[–] ter_maxima@jlai.lu 8 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

While this is bad for the market, it's also entirely expected.

Xbox have been producing sub-par hardware with names no one can remember and barely any exclusives, it was only a matter of time.

To other Europeans : do you know anyone who owns an Xbox ? I've only ever had one single friend in middle school who had a 360. I've never seen any other model outside of an electronics store.

Their current gen is hamstrung by the existence of the Series S, and the utter lack of features in their controllers (no gyroscope or any motion sensors ? No advanced rumble ? No touchpad ?). No one who is serious about controller gaming buys an Xbox controller, especially because of the lack of gyro.

Their dedication to digital-only and pushing the games pass also alienates anyone who wishes to play physical games and/or offline.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 51 minutes ago

In the uk I remember the 360 being huge and nobody having a ps3, but now I'm not sure I know a single person who bought an xb1 or whatever the current one is called.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 3 points 3 hours ago

OTOH I only have a PS5 because of Sony's marketing budget, lol (non-slim version included with a Sony phone on contract, so technically also a way for them to clear stock, lmao)

But yeah, I don't know any people with a recent Xbox here in Sweden. In the original Xbox era and the 360 era I think they had a big lead here, but after that I've seen much more Sony represented.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago

I think that xbox controller are the best controllers for PC, so I don't need all the advanced features, but otherwise, you are right.

Their market is now clearly gamepass + Windows. Microsoft is banking on their market share to sell gamepass and capture the market.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What will happen to the games library? If only the ROG Xbox Ally can play Xbox Series X|S games…

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think the Xbox Ally is able to play the Series' games. It has a GPU that's comparable to the Series S.

However, we're gonna lose the old Xbox games (OG & One) compatibility unless Microsoft bundles an Xbox emulator into Windows.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I think you meant the 360 which had a PowerPC CPU and Nvidia GPU. The One and Series X|S use the same, more or less, AMD APU design as the ROG Ally.

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 120 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Part of the problem might be that I literally have no idea what their current console is called? Whoever was in charge of naming the last threeish xbox consoles should be fired out of a cannon

[–] yarr 7 points 3 hours ago

I think It's called Xbox Series 365 Office Copilot Pro+ for .NET

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They had all that free marketting from people assuming the third one would be the 720 and they ditched it in favor of calling it the Xbox One, which everyone was already using for the name of the first Xbox. Still baffled by that one.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 75 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

I can't think of a single company worse at naming products and services than Microsoft. They have an abysmal track record. Some examples off the top of my head, all of which make web searches near-impossible:

  • They renamed Office 365 to just "365" (and then "365 Copilot"). The mind boggles.
  • They named their light extensible code editor "Visual Studio Code", despite the fact that they had a long-established IDE (for code) called "Visual Studio".
  • They called their application framework "the .NET framework".
  • They called the replacement framework ".NET Core", and after a few major versions, changed to calling it ".NET", but it's totally distinct from the .NET framework.
  • They called their ninth major desktop operating system "Windows 7", then followed up with "Windows 8" and... "Windows 10".
  • Their native web app replacement for Outlook is called "New Outlook".
  • They recently renamed their Remote Desktop app "Windows App". I have no words.
[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

My favorite is still Microsoft Zune… Which was a music store, music subscription service, a desktop app, and a physical media player.

It’s like they want their stuff to literally be unsearchable on the internet. Renaming Remote Desktop to Windows App is a prime example of this. Good luck trying to search for that and get what you want.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when they named their voice assistant after a video game character?

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

That was probably one of their most sensible naming decisions

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

You forgot about Teams (New)

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

One would almost think they are having a laugh, but no it's for real (I don't think are intentionally trying to come up with such comically stupid naming policies).

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, sometimes I wonder if they do these bad names for the free publicity of people complaining about them. But then there's plenty examples where the name isn't just clunky, but rather actively confusing for potential users...

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft suck at naming things in general. It's a problem across every single branch of the business, people keep calling Office 365 0365 because Microsoft insists on calling it O365 and people think that's a zero. Also the name makes no sense anyway, why not call it Microsoft Office Online?

Then we have Microsoft Azure, except they renamed that to Entra despite the fact that both names are stupid. Then of course there is the entirety of the Windows OS lineup.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Entra isn't Azure. Entra ID is what they renamed Azure Active Directory to. But not always; there's also Azure Active Directory B2C (yes, that's the fully expanded name). And various other Azure-branded things that may or may not belong together.

Microsoft are spectacularly bad at naming things.

It's a miracle they haven't renamed Windows 11 to "360 365" or "Live 6.5" or "Active-DOS Series X" or something.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 31 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Well yeah because they screwed up one of their main franchises. All they had to do was leave Budgie alone to make Halo games, but no.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 29 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Bungie didnt want to make halo games anymore though

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Well too fucking bad, cause Halo is the only thing they're good at. They should have sucked it up and kept iterating on Halo 3. That game was peak Xbox.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, they should have sucked it up and made a passionless game, a shell of the former titles. Oh, wait.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

They should have given us another Lost Odyssey.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago

Hey MDK deserves another one.

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

They can just be another Sega.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 135 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

Wait I thought stock buybacks and hollowing out all our dedicated talent didn't have consequences?

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 129 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Was funny when they said they needed more original games like Hi Fi rush after firing the people that made Hi Fi rush.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (12 children)

Well, everyone say hello to the $1000+ PlayStation 6.

What're you going to do, buy an Xbox? Build a PC with a GPU alone that costs almost the same?

No Xbox means Sony gains a monopoly on the console market. Unless Nintendo decides to actually compete with regular hardware again, which they won't.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 14 points 14 hours ago

But consider... Steam Deck.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

We passed the point of diminishing returns for graphics years ago. There's no point in keeping up with the latest hardware anymore.

[–] Havoc8154@mander.xyz 27 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

Nah, I'll just keep gaming on a cheap Linux PC and fuck ever buying a console again. Honestly at this point a 5 year old GPU gives you access to 99% of all games ever made, why spend so much to play 4 shitty 'AAAA' games a year?

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[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

Steamdeck probably tbh if they don't migrate to playstation

Budget and fits the exact needs of xbox users

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I feel her pain. Seamus Blackly and Jay Allard probably feel the same.

[–] simple@piefed.social 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

"And here's the thing — maybe it will work," she added. "Xbox has a deep portfolio. [Oblivion Remastered] was obviously a huge success, and they can continue to outsource that work to external companies and make a lot of money releasing their older games — older games from an era when Xbox knew how to build them."

Shots fired. Despite Microsoft constantly claiming Xbox is here to stay and they're working on the next console, it's very clear they're trying to transition off hardware back into Windows so they don't lose that too since Linux is dominating the handheld market. Even if they do make a new console, theyll put as much effort into it as the Xbox One.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Funnily enough though they're also potentially losing desktop users to Linux.

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