The UN has largely worked as intended, even now. It's purpose is to allow the world powers to peacefully interact with each other and control everyone else.
this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2025
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I heard America is trying get the American Idol judge system to replace it but they are waiting to get the final confirmation from Coca Cola.
I’m so fucking offended by this comment. You think that America is just a bunch of goddam capitalism that works its way into every nook and cranny of politics that the US is in? We’re just an entertainment pumping machine for your entertainment? No. We are a capitalist entertainment empire and you better fucking LOVE it because it would all be sponsored by McDonald’s and not Coca Cola.
It'll probably reform under a different name in 5-10 year's time.
I've always been partial to restarting the League of Nations, which notably never had the United States anyway... sounds familiar.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the League of Nations largely the brainchild of Woodrow Wilson, US president during WW1?
It was structurally different to the UN we know today, but it was still pushed forward by a US president.
wasn’t the League of Nations largely the brainchild of Woodrow Wilson, US president during WW1?
Yes it was, quite ironic that the US never became a part of it right? But they've always been like that. I can't figure out why anyone would rely on an agreement with them when every 4 years they switch from Jekyll to Hyde, do an about face and throw you to the wolves. They're useful allies when they want to be useful, but I wouldn't rely on them or trust any agreement with them any further than I can throw it. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
I wouldn't rely on them or trust any agreement with them any further than I can throw it.
Idk....I can throw a balled up piece of paper pretty far...and frankly I would trust any agreement significantly less than I can throw that....
It needs to re-form as something different. No state should have veto power, no state that bullies others, internally or externally should be on the security or human rights councils, no state that isn't signatory to charters should get any vote. States that refused to arrest on warrants should have membership revoked. Probably more but those would be good starting points.
There could be value in such an association, but it wouldn't replace the UN, far from it.
What's your proposing is akin to the ICC, where willing states join and agree to comply with its rulings.
The UN serves as a forum for all countries of the world. If no privileges were given to the world's most powerful countries, they might just leave it, severaly reducing its use in the process.
The UN serves as a forum for all countries of the world. If no privileges were given to the world's most powerful countries, they might just leave it, severaly reducing its use in the process.
And? You can see powerful countries abusing veto powers and that in no way should be on the human rights councils. If these countries refuse to uphold global standards, they're not in, and can be prosecuted.
I don't think a membre of the security council csn really "abuse" veto power. What do you think would happen if they couldn't?
Again, I'd like to say that there can be value in such an association. Just as I see value in associations like ICC and NATO. They're just not a forum to solve disputes and that's OK.