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It would be nice if tipping was just gone, and everybody got paid a living wage, like in most of the rest of the world. We're in a Nash equilibrium right now where if you don't tip, you're an asshole. Other people might even tip more if they hear about it, which reinforces the status quo. So I keep tipping well, and disliking that we're stuck here.

How can we end tipping culture and just have everyone be paid a living wage?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Hey that's what I always thought it was when I was little; Disnep

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

I tip for table service, hair cuts, valets, housekeeping at hotels, food delivery, bell hops, and I think that's it. I'm thinking pretty hard. The only other thing is if some place I'm ordering a beer, ice cream, or other treat is very busy sometimes I'll tip a small amount, but that's the only time I'm doing it out of "kindness" instead of "obligation."

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 10 hours ago

I tip if it's delivery or table service (food) because the minimum wage rules are bullshit.

[–] FriendFatale@leminal.space -1 points 5 hours ago

because if you dont, you should kill yourself.

[–] Honytawk 4 points 11 hours ago

If I was ever forced to tip, I'd just transfer the entire amount to the tip and change the bill to be free.

If the business complains, I'd just say their service wasn't worth it, but the worker was doing a great job.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I won't tip over $10 regardless of how much the bill was. One person took my order, someone else brought my food, a third person refilled my drinks, someone else will clean the table. I don't care if you're pooling tips. Combined I took up 10 minutes of time distributed over multiple people. $10 is enough for that service. It's a tip, not a commission.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You shouldn’t be going out to eat where servers are paid with tips then.

You’re engaging in a system that exploits the worker then further exploit the worker to prove a point.

Kinda (very much so) a dick move

https://youtu.be/89R9ZxKaIOw

[–] MacStache@sopuli.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago

It's infuriating that the tipping culture is trying to spread to europe as well. I live in Finland and went to a restaurant a couple of weeks ago and while paying the bill the payment machine (or what ever it's really called) had the audacity to ask whether I want to tip or not.

No. I don't. The wages of the waiters do not suck here as they do in the states. They're not the greatest, but you get by.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I tip because I used to live off tips. I’d like the laws to change, but until they do, punishing my server certainly won’t help. I also don’t go out to eat very often. Tipping isn’t a major expense.

If you can’t afford to tip, then you can’t afford to go to a restaurant or order delivery. If you have a philosophical problem with tipping, then cook at home and write to your congressperson. Don’t screw someone who’s struggling to pay their rent.

Edit: changed “congressman” to “congressperson”. Surprised that one slipped by.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand why people don't just add 20% to the prices of things in their heads. We already do it for sales tax. We know the number at the register is gonna be different.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 1 points 5 hours ago

Right? I’m not good at doing math in my head, but even I can handle 10% times two.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago

I tip because I earn enough money to tip. We should all aim to be a little bit more like Robin Hood and a little bit less like Prince John. You know what I'm saying?

Take the wealth from the rich motherfuckers and give it to the poor bastards that the rich motherfuckers are getting rich off of.

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (6 children)

we currently have a federal minimum wage in the USA that is extremely low, but that minimum wage does not apply to servers at restaurants.

raising minimum wage, capping the ratio of CEO pay to average employee pay, and allowing everyone in the US to benefit from a minimum wage would probably get the tipping beast to slow down.

if we knew all servers were making at least $30/hr and their big boss was not making more than $750/hr (25:1 ratio - a shitty ratio for CEO pay; this would be one of the poor ones) then i think tips would be a bit rare.

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[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll tip at a restaurant where I'm seated, someone takes my order, brings me my food, and clears my table. If I have to order at a counter or do any of the above it's not a place I'll typically tip.

At McAlister's the other day I went in and say down, pulled up their app on my phone to place my order, and that's when I noticed they had removed the table numbers, so you can't use the app to place an order. I went to the counter and the lady taking my order was in training, however they weren't really training her. She had to stop someone and ask how to do every little thing. The register next to me had 4 people go through it in the time it took her to take my simple order. The whole time I'm thinking how much easier this would have been using the app. Finally, the order is in and I pay with my card, and it asks for a tip. The options are 15% 20% 25% [Other]. I had to actually put 0 in for the tip amount. I won't be going back.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

It's important to mention this location doesn't do "table service". The most they do is bring the food to your table. They don't take the order from the table or give you refills.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 10 points 2 days ago

What is that gif even supposed to mean

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

img

It's not their fault that greedy muthafuckers simply take take take. I can't fix the system, so I simply do what I can.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

I don't. I try not to eat at places that don't pay their employees a proper wage and try to subsidize it through encouraging or even requiring a tip. I rarely get fast food, either, because it's way more expensive than just cooking for myself.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Even with places that don’t have tips some weird North Americans demand for it to be implemented.

custom -> -200%

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Because it is expected and so not tipping is ripping someone else off.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

We no longer really eat out and stay away from anything that involves tipping as unfortunately its been put in to allow lower wages. So no uber, grubhub, whatever and no dining in and carry out places that show a tip option are places we don't go to anymore. I know we are extreme but it just got out of hand and I mean. If all americans did like us. Well tipping would one way or another go away (some businesses would fold and some would remove the practice).

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Pure selfishness. I feel great when I tip big.

[–] 50shadesofautism@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I don't go out to eat a lot so I always tip very well unless the service is terrible.

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