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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Pakistan saying they would nuke Israel if Israel nuked Iran probably was the only thing holding Israel back from pulling the trigger. If there was ever a group of people who should never be permitted to have nuclear weapons, its the Israelis.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Seems to me, like there is EXTREMELY, next to zero, or perhaps zero reason to ever HAVE to use a nuke. Nuke's should be a defensive deterrent, not a first choice. I'm sure the military has plenty of other options.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago

I’m sure the military has plenty of other options.

The other option is the GBU-57 bunker buster bombs, which is what they used - but a single bomb like that isn’t capable of reaching deep enough on its own. So they had to use a significant portion of their stockpile to achieve their objective that way.

The alternative would have been to drop in special forces and have them break into the heavily defended facility the traditional way.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

If you are not ready to use a nuke ever, it stops being a deterrent. Game theory.

But this situation is not the kind where a nuke is used as a deterrent. If Israel was saying they're sorry and asking for ceasefire, while Iranians would be absolutely destroying what remains of it and not listening, then yes.

Or, if Iran had a nuke and Israelis were succeeding in destroying Iran.

But neither are true.

[–] ScizorCipher@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are 13k ton bombs that can penetrate pretty deep dropped by B2 bombers, which might be headed to the ME right now.

[–] kittyjynx@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

The B2s will be flown into Diego Garcia. The only time they will be in the middle east is if they are over a target. Hopefully they stay in Diego Garcia.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It is so odd that this info being publicized...

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are trying to scare Iran into giving into what they want.

He thinks this is a genius plan.

It's stupid.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

He will chicken out and give the nukes to them... And call it the most brilliant thing anyone has ever done

they just want to test how much public outcry there would be

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well, they did it. Now Iran will lash out and close the straits of Hormuz. It's the only threat that they can carry out now...

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

US Reportedly Assesses It Would Need to Drop Nuclear Bomb to Destroy Iran Nuclear Facility

Well, they did it.

No they didn't. It was conventional bombs, not nuclear.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Sorry forgot about the nuclear bit of the bomb. Regardless, I want to be drafted into the psychic corps for the upcoming world war regardless of talent

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

...and we'll sink the ships, and have dogfights over the sea, and it will escalate, and hello World War 3!

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was hoping they could wait a few more years so I'd be too old to be drafted, but looks like I'll be twerking in Tehran

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, resist the draft. Drafts are evil, do ANYTHING to avoid fighting a MAGA War. My son is the perfect draft age, and he is NEVER going to fight for MAGA. If they want it so bad, the MAGAs can sacrifice their own.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Get a doctor to say your son has bone spurs.

[–] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Don't worry guys we're not going to war.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 2 points 5 days ago

Too late, we've been at war for a long time.

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago

Yeah no hipocrisy and double standards whatsoever /s

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I checked if this was the onion after reading the title

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

Dumbo with the big ears is pulling the strings of the empty-headed Scarecrow.

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