Hooray, we're doing something that isn't despicable for a change!
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Apart from all the absurd stuff MS does with user data, I simply cannot understand why people use Teams - it's a terrible app for video calls.
Our corporation mandates it, the person behind it is not tech savvy and immune to advice
Why do you think it's bad for video calls? I find It works perfectly fine
In my company in nearly every meeting someone has issues with either video, audio, or screensharing not working. We even had a couple instances (including for myself) where it showed the camera as being off, but other people could see you....
For comparison, as much as I dislike google, I also regularly use Meet and I can't even remember ever having issues.
Strange. We use a lot of teams and the video call is, for us, the best thing about it. Never had any such issues. The rest of the m365/teams suite is annoying for sure tho
In my experience, teams has performance issues, consumes a lot of system resources, and has a confusing, unintuitive interface. I also find it outrageous that the teams app adds itself back to autostart every time you use it.
I also have concerns about where my data is stored and how it is processed.
Ah, we use teams for business on a group policied pc so i can only comment on the actual use of teams (for business). Which is such a major improvement from skype and zoom. And never really had any performance issues
We use it at work because it's intergrated into Office. I suspect that's why most people use it.
Typical Microsoft tactic for domination - bundle it in, integrate it and then people won't try other stuff. Anti-trust / Anti-monopolies laws used to be used to fine and stop this, but now they can do whatever they want.
Yes, that's clear, but I think Teams is still terrible even in this situation. I really can't imagine a use case where this app would be a good choice - even if everyone uses Office. What are the advantages? What are people doing that couldn't be done with any other solution? I realize that it's probably mainly because employees are set in their ways, but is there really an objective reason why it has to be Teams? And as I said, I mean that even if you ignore the data protection nightmare that this application is.
Edit: Sorry, I probably misread that. I assume you use Teams because every employee has an MS365 subscription anyway. That seems like a waste of money to me tho, because every Office app can be replaced with a free open source app β except perhaps in the few cases of Excel power users. But that's just my opinion β in corporate practice, things look very different.
We use the education subset of Teams. It surely isn't perfect, but it has many positive features.
Group calls with 30 people work just as good as individual calls, if not better.
You can manage groups into break-out rooms very easily.
There's whiteboards, forms, polls and other integratable features for interactive communication with students.
The assignments mechanic is pretty decent in general. However, the rubrics very cumbersome to add.
The MsGraph backend is very extensive and let's you create your own apps that can integrate with all the teams data. That makes it possible to automate a lot. Also MSAL is a tried and trusted authorization mechanism.
It also has a lot of downsides, like bugs, automatic updates that break features you were using, nobody listens to feature requests, shitty documentation, the environment is very big and you can easily get lost (we've had to make couple videos and documentation to explain it all to new students). But all in all it is pretty decent to work with.
For one stupid reason: everybody else uses it.
Yes, I've also experienced this several times. However, I still don't understand what the problem is with contacting customers who use Teams via some other solution. I can only explain it with ignorance that borders on incompetence.
They won't answer.
I set up meetings through Zoom and BBB before where you can join without an account and through a web interface. Usually, the answer was: βSorry, we're using Teams, please set up a Teams call or we won't be able to have the meeting.β
Any attempt to explain was just waisted energy.
Yeah, I've been there too β it's really sad that people are so incredibly incompetent β I had this happen to me even with an advertising agency that makes millions in sales, where we were the client. It's really unbelievable. These are all highly paid people and they have no idea what they're doing. Really just empty talk and not the slightest bit of substance behind it.
They're lazy. They don't want to think about "all that computer stuff".
Finally some good news!
As always: too late and too little. Better than nothing, though (and "nothing" was [and still is] quite expected)...
It should be "We're done with Microsoft" as the very least.
Microsoft has been embedded in most enterprises and governments since the 90's.
Though it should be a top priority of every government on earth, replacing it completely with FOSS would likely be a multi-decade IT project (to do it properly, instead of doomed-to-fail attempts).