Newb here, help needed w/ Bazzite : linux

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Run a LiveUSB of anything else. If it works, install that instead.

Stop listening to AI.

[–] bastion 8 points 2 days ago

The best advice was gratuitous.

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[–] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which bazzite build did you install?

Are you able to switch to a secondary or tertiary TTY with Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F3?

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have not tried what you are asking in the second line because I have no clue what a secondary TTY even is, let alone the shortcuts or commands to do it. You were wondering if I tried this while the green screen is up or while everything is working normally?

[–] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While the green screen is up. I listed the shortcuts in the above comment. If there is an issue in the graphics pipeline you may be able to troubleshoot from a terminal only session using Ctrl+Alt+F2.

Login to that text only eesison with the username a password you used when creating the image.

Do you know which bazzite image you used? I think for your configuration it should have been bazzite-desktop. You might be having a green screen graphical issue if you accidentally downloaded a flashed bazzite-deck or bazzite-nvidia with an AMD graphics card.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was desktop KDE I can not remember if it was the one with gaming mode or not. I think it was not but I could be misremembering. I used one of the first install and the other on the second.

[–] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Where you able to log in to a TTY session?

All bazzite images support 'gaming mode'. The deck images boot into it straight away which could cause problems with desktop hardware.

Consider joining the ublue discord group and troubleshooting with the creators of bazzite in the bazzte channel. They are very knowledgeable and if your issue is reproducible they would be able to implement a fix in future images.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tell us more about what's happening, is the whole monitor turning green or just parts of it?

Does it stay green until you do something, or does it go away on its own?

Does it happen only with certain games or applications, or does it happen regardless of what's running?

And please for the love of fuck do not run any commands you don't personally understand, especially if it came from an "ai". Don't poison your brain (and the planet) with "ai" bullshit, please!

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Solid green screen across the whole thing. The speaker starts humming the mouse and keyboard do not do anything and it does not resolve on its own (not within five minutes or so anyway). I have to do a hard reboot, then it works fine for the next 7-14 hours and then it happens again. Does not matter what I am doing. I have had it go green when I was reading plain text and not even touching the inputs.

[–] counterspell@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is the sound coming from the motherboard speaker or through a sound card or display?

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From the MB to the external box speaker on the desk.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So I was wrong, sound was wired through the display via HDMI to the MB. I switched the speaker over to the MB directly and plugged the monitor into the GFX card instead of the MB, see if this changes anything.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

You're going to get much better performance now too if the monitor was plugged into the motherboard before

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Your monitor always needs to be plugged into the graphics card. If you plug it in via the motherboard, then your GPU is doing nothing, as it can't backfeed to that motherboard connector. CPUs often have their own graphics built-in, and that's what yours would have been using instead.

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[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Solid green, have to hard reboot.

[–] cmo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a 9070xt and a 7600x. I was getting game crashes for a solid week. Although no green screens. Check which version of Mesa you are on, if it’s not the latest, do the upgrade from the terminal. I think you want 25.0.x. This solved my issues it’s been solid since. 9070XT support improved a lot over the last month. I don’t recall the commands to check Mesa version, etc. but that’s something AI should be able to give you. For whatever reason, updating via the GUI did not work for me.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

I tried this one already, saw it when I was googling possible solutions. I am also starting to figure it is a hardware issue. I was very uncertain being new to Linux I wanted some software input but it is not looking good for an easy software fix.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Off the top of my head, I think sudo journalctl -xeb -1 should give you some useful error output for the previous boot (after rebooting from a failure).

There's a --list-boots option if you've rebooted a couple times since but aren't entirely sure.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I will give this a try next time it happens! Good looking out

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OP, do this - it's the best way to figure out what's happening. It could be any number of issues, e.g. faulty RAM. With the output of the command above people can tell you what to test for.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

sudo journalctl -xeb -1 [sudo] password for Necroscope:

Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49

Jun 06 09:39:09 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such f>

Jun 06 09:39:22 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such f>

Jun 06 09:41:58 bazzite steam[3399]: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/extest/libextest.so' from LD_PRELOAD canno>

Jun 06 09:45:56 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such f>

Jun 06 09:46:03 bazzite plasmashell[2860]: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.private.systemtra>

lines 1091-1114/1114 (END)

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's unfortunately a bit cut off. Could you run this again with the following command? sudo journalctl -xeb -1 --no-pager

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49

Jun 06 09:39:09 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such file or directory

Jun 06 09:39:22 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such file or directory

Jun 06 09:41:58 bazzite steam[3399]: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/extest/libextest.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.

Jun 06 09:45:56 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such file or directory

Jun 06 09:46:03 bazzite plasmashell[2860]: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.private.systemtray/contents/ui/items/PlasmoidItem.qml:24: TypeError: Cannot read

property 'toolTipMainText' of null

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hm, unfortunately nothing obvious. And your last boot ended with a crash?

Nevertheless you could try running a Memtest (this can take a while) - it will check whether any of your RAM modules are faulty: https://www.memtest.org/

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I ran that first thing after the crash

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, you should have mentioned that - or do you think that fsck is Memtest? It is not.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No I have not tried to run the memtest yet

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Do you have DOCP/XMP/Expo (whichever your board may call it) turned on? If so, you might want to try turning it off and see if the crashes stop (or at least get reduced). RAM could be fine but just not stable, which a BIOS update might help. Also might help in the event that your board is one of those that have had issues recently with the X3D CPUs. There is always a chance that the GPU might be faulty. Which I don't know how to best test for that short of just trying an old one (or a friend's if they have their old one).

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Alright so it finally happened again, here is the output of that command:

sudo journalctl -xeb -1 [sudo] password for Necroscope: Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:38:47 bazzite kioworker[18070]: qt.gui.imageio.jpeg: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x52 0x49 Jun 06 09:39:09 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such f> Jun 06 09:39:22 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such f> Jun 06 09:41:58 bazzite steam[3399]: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/extest/libextest.so' from LD_PRELOAD canno> Jun 06 09:41:58 bazzite steam[3399]: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/extest/libextest.so' from LD_PRELOAD canno> Jun 06 09:45:56 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such f> Jun 06 09:45:56 bazzite flatpak[4252]: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/GL/default/share/libdrm/amdgpu.ids: No such f> Jun 06 09:46:03 bazzite plasmashell[2860]: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.private.systemtra> lines 1091-1114/1114 (END)

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm a bazzite user for a good year now, and also a first time Linux user. My hardware is amd as well, and for me the experience has been great, the most annoying issues having been compatibility workarounds for windows software. I would definitely recommend you to join their discord for support.

A green screen of death does not sound healthy, even crashes or hard reboots have never produced something similar for me. To rule out hardware issues, can you install a windows copy and/or create a USB with a live Linux OS such as mint to compare? (For reference, some Linux distros are able to run entirely off a USB stick, albeit much slower due to the obvious bottleneck).

If all this checks out I would suggest either reinstalling bazzite off a verified iso (there is a function before installing to make sure there are no errors) or using another distro.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I already tried redownloading and reinstalling Bazzite, yeah. Followed install instructions on Bazzites page pretty sure it had me verify the ISO

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Your motherboard wouldn't happen to be an AsRock? There's been reports of ASRock mobos in particular causing problems with 9000 series AMD chips, especially the X3D. Mate of mine running windows has been having it crash especially when idle at desktop.

I'm not familiar with a green Linux equivalent to the BSOD. Is it completely green? In that case it may be a graphics problem...

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It’s definitely an AMD graphics card crash.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hrm, no MB is MSI. Graphics card is AsRock though, were there compatibility issues with them too? And yes, completely solid green screen. Speaker also humming and nothing to be done, a hard reboot is required

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Like Hawke said it seems like the graphics card or driver crashing. Very hard to troubleshoot, especially when it's random. Bazzite probably already has very recent drivers, there's this post on the bad website listing some things to try. This stuff can lead to superstitious thinking, with people changing something, rebooting to have it work fine for a while then they post that change as if it fixed it.

God speed.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Thank you for this resource, now I have a couple more things to try before busting open the case and messing with hardware

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean by "green screen of death"? Is there any text or something you can transcribe or screenshot for us?

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No text or screen shot possible, screen is just solid green mouse and keyboard do nothing. Have to do a hard reboot.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah. If this is a new build that suggests a hardware issue. Can you try running with only one stick of RAM and/or xmp disabled to see if that fixes things?

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you install slightly older drivers? Also maybe reseat the GPU (plug out and in)

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I will try reseating it, this is the second set of drivers I have tried already though

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