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The hajj, one of the largest annual human gatherings in the world, begins on Wednesday in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. Amid rising temperatures and logistical challenges, the pilgrimage has increasingly become a test of endurance both for pilgrims and the Saudi government.

Millions of Muslims from around the world travel to the city to take part; Saudi Arabia said 1,475,230 pilgrims from abroad have arrived since Sunday. Last year, the Saudi government said more than 1,300 pilgrims died, many from Egypt. Most of those who perished had been unregistered, Saudi officials said, meaning they had made the trip without the permits that gave them access to heat protections.

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't see any mister fans in these pictures. They need to get a fuckload of those and hook em up to iced water lines. Or some of that outdoor ac they used in the world cup. This is kinda lame money would solve this. They got money. So what's the problem. You can look up some pictures of vip hotels and areas they have set up for this to know there is absolutely no money problem.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Most of those who perished had been unregistered, Saudi officials said, meaning they had made the trip without the permits that gave them access to heat protections.

Why aren't these protections available for all? In Islam Allah requires all that can to go on Hajj at least once in their life. Why would those who steward the project let any be harmed?

[–] philpo@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Tbh, the Saudis do put in a lot of effort to provide at least some protection. And their infrastructure is mostly temporary. But if you have tens of thousands of people extra it's not that easy to protect them as well - when you already shelter millions.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks, Im not super familiar with the details of the Hajj

[–] philpo@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago

Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of the KSA government (really) - but I do work in disaster preparedness/planning and that also includes crowd management. And from that perspective the Hajj is pretty impressive. The conditions even outside the worst summer heat are extreme, the crowd has often only minimal education, there is a huge language barrier, people tend to be somewhat vacantly.

Read up on it, it's quite interesting.

[–] Akasazh 2 points 1 week ago

It's not like its a yearly occuring event one can easily plan for...

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 1 week ago

Toy are right but squdi seems to only care about the revenua they will gwnerate from the hajj. Nobody should risk death for doing the hajj

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's a requirement in their faith todo this at least once if you can.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That does not make it less stupid

[–] DragonSidedD@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bingo.

I have way more respect for ravers at Burning Man who OD on Ecstasy while dancing naked and copulating for 14 hours straight.

At least they enjoyed their completely unproductive dalliance

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you get to decide what people should or shouldn't enjoy?

Different people can have different life goals and find fulfillment in different ways.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

I’ve done the BM thing he describes and he hasn’t. I absolutely laugh at his begrudging approval. And uh, I guess I have respect for the cable TV watching he did that week? Is that the appropriate thing to say ;D

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (41 children)
[–] Bravo@eviltoast.org -1 points 1 week ago

We all choose makey-uppy things to believe in, through which we interpret the purpose of our own existence. There's no objective reason to be kind to strangers beyond what we can get out of it - there are plenty of billionaires in the world to prove that selfishness and greed is a valid life strategy - but we CHOOSE to BELIEVE in made-up concepts like fairness and love, because it makes most of us happier to live that way. I see no reason to look down my nose at people who choose a few more made-up concepts to believe in than I do. I'm only bothered by the people who are pig-headed about it, incapable of accepting that people believe in different things than they do... and that category includes people who say "faith is idiocy".

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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago

You know that the hajj change day every year. A muslim have plenty of opportunity to go when there is no dangerous heat

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

In software engineering, you change requirements when they are too stupid.

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