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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 hours ago

Ohh they're not ignoring it. They want to go back because of it.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Why would the goal be to make women miserable? Like what's the point?

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

To get back at them for what Eve did in the Bible. (I'm only partly kidding.)

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Hold up. Rewind.

They used to sign fault during a divorce? What the hell?

Why was that ever a thing?

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No fault divorce isn't about assigning blame. They actually still do that in certain situations, such as adultery or abuse. No fault divorce means that the state will allow a divorce even if no one is to "blame." Prior to that, you essentially needed a legal reason to get a divorce other than "I just want to be married to this person anymore."

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 hours ago

Even if both people wanted a divorce they would have to do something like fake an affair. The husband could hire a hooker and the wife would hire a P.I. to "discover" the indiscretion.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago

The elite and religion (same thing) need more babies

[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

The GOP is for gender equality by raising female suicide rates to match male ones.

Equal Opportunity Misery

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

no fault divorce ruined the private investigator industry

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

May I recommend The Way We Never Were for real insight into earlier American life and families.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No fault divorce is a no brainer.

[–] PlutoVolcano@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago

Funny enough the people that don’t support it have no brain so I’m not so sure

Or maybe they’re just evil down to their core

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, it is their goal, which is why they have to be killed.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

What people seem to have also forgotten is the amount of righteous murder that was going on. https://youtu.be/Gw7gNf_9njs

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

“Maybe”?

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 17 points 1 day ago

They won't give a shit about female suicide.

Point out homicide of male partners dropped 70% and you may get their self-involved attention

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So the suicide rate for both genders actually significantly dropped right after 1970. Wonder what's that about?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Living in a relationship that you don't want to live in, and having no way out except death.

What's to understand?

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Surely its so simple.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 97 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The Good Old Days they always refer to is the world where Adult White Christian Males get to rule the world, do whatever they want, say whatever they want, everyone is subservient to them and every other race, religion, identity, minority and female is below them.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 12 hours ago

It's not as conspiratorial as that.

  • Politician: We'll make it like the good old days
  • Voter remembering their childhood: I remember that, life was so simple.
  • Politician: ...so vote for me.

All the voters are voting for their own individual fantasies. The politician just wants the votes. This is just dirty populist games.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I wish they were honest about their selfishness, at least it’s logically consistent. I’ll take that over their cult like thinking.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mild fascism was always "okay" in colonial-settler history. It was only when the Nazis went full fascist and started attacking other Europeans for either not buying into their world view or for having impure Slavic or Mediterranean blood did shit hit the fan.

For many of these regressionists, going back hinges on the ascension of neo Nazism.

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[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Women weren't allowed to open a bank account in the states until the 70's

There is a good chance grandma didn't leave grandpa because she literally couldn't

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 hours ago

And women who had "hysteria" were given lobotomies.

Theres a reason there is still a large cohort of older folks to follow the taboo on therapy: "I'm not crazy, I don't need therapy". Because in the good ole days they just locked and chained up or lobotomized anyone with divergence.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is kind of a bullshit statistic.

Female suicides for women have always been low, so the per 100k can vary a bit. In 1970 it was 7.4 per 100k and by 1980 it had dropped to 5.7 per 100k. However, in 1950 and 1960 it was 5.6 per 100k.

So really the "drop" was due to a single high decade of suicides before going back to the average that it had been at. The drop in suicides after the 1970's was really still a slightly higher rate than the 50s and 60s.

Also, men commit suicide roughly four to five times more often than women.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've read multiple times that women attempt suicide just as much. If not more than men, men are just better at being successful

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

:: TW- Somewhat graphic discussion of suicide

There's fascinating data that explains that the reason men are more successful is because they suicide in a more violent fashion, and women tend to do things like poisoning.

"Women may be more likely to take others into consideration, and looking at suicide in the context of relationships may give women less incentive to want to die as it will cause others emotional harm. That may also be why they choose less violent methods of suicide to avoid traumatizing those who will grieve their loss."

There are a lot of other reasons why the methods might be different. There are a lot of opinions on it. But of the people I've lost to suicide, a couple of women intentionally overdosed and left a note out where the family could find it indicating where they'd left their body so they didn't have to come collect it themselves, or there was one who locked herself in the bathroom with a note on that door... and of the men it was hanging or a shotgun to the face in the woods behind his house. (Which resulted in the neighbor kids finding his body. Not cool.)

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Far higher social stigmas and family pressure likely led to fewer deaths being ruled suicide in the 1950s as compared to today but of course there can be no data on this fact, just anecdotes.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Anecdotal and a lack of causation. Saying suicides in women dropped after getting no fault divorce after the 70's is no more a causational fact than saying female suicide rates dropped after the 70's due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

due to Billy Joel releasing his hit single My Life in 1979

Seems legit. That's a pretty inspirational song.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The kind of people who want to end no fault divorce don't actually care about female suicide.

Warn them that men's life expectancy dramatically increased due to no fault divorce. Because a woman trapped in a bad marriage kills her husband.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 39 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Don't forget the number women who poisoned abusive men, but law enforcement and medical examiners quietly pretended it was natural causes

Let's bring that back

I hear men's ability to balance on ladders improved drastically shortly after as well.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fine but only if we can bring back the 90% top tax bracket too

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ignores? No, my friend. They're completely aware and are fine with it.

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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago

Soon: "Nazis didn't care about minorities🤯"

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