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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

More interested in building prisons than schools and hospitals. They’re showing us who they are.

[–] tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If they announced they were building new schools and hospitals, someone would quite rightly point out the dire prison situation and complain that Labour isn't taking governance seriously.

Comments like yours are proof that Labour just can't do anything without moaning and resistance from Joe Public. This is yet another Tory catastrophe that Labour are forced to deal with.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sorry, no, let’s not pretend that this is a Tory issue. RAAC’s fatal flaw has been understood since the late 1980s. Labour had 13 years pretending to be for the NHS and Education x3. Did they rebuild the flawed schools and hospitals? Fuck did they. All UK governments have been a useless shower.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago

Carrots and sticks.
The carrots society expects are under-provided, so removal can't be used as a persuader.
So we end up spending money on more sticks.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Good. Our prisons have been full for a while, and Conservatives built fuck all. They even scrapped plans for a new prison.

I live less than 1km from HMP Northumberland and I can happily say that it's seemingly getting some upgrades too, as is our closest hospital.

Quite refreshing to see things being built again, and having a bit more long-term planning.

I know people here appear to have the opinion that having a legal system and prisons = fascism, but that's an absurd and extremist opinion.

If someone rapes/kills/grievously assaults someone, or whatever, there has to be prison spaces available for them. Overcrowding in prisons has led to worse outcomes - re-offending, radicalisation, lack of prisoner and guard safety, etc. We need to build.

[–] thefluffiest 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trying to outfascist the fascists, are we?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Building prisons is not fascist. The world needs prisons, and we've not been building any despite the population increasing and existing prisons being full.