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Three new prisons to be built starting this year, UK justice secretary announces (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by blackn1ght@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

More interested in building prisons than schools and hospitals. They’re showing us who they are.

[+] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] cook_pass_babtridge@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They also inherited a health system that's full to bursting. I don't think 100% of the people in prison right now are a serious threat to the public, and building new prisons can induce demand so we end up locking more people away.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think judges are issuing sentences that reflect the capacity of the prison system. The prison system is having to release prisonors early to accommodate people who have been recently sentenced.

The crime stats are trending down overall as a % (with a few notable exceptions recently), but our population is growing. I imagine the prison system is just one of the many areas that have been neglected over the years and hasn't scaled up inline with population growth.

I don’t think 100% of the people in prison right now are a serious threat to the public Agree with this though, the JSO protestors definitetly come to mind.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago

Carrots and sticks.
The carrots society expects are under-provided, so removal can't be used as a persuader.
So we end up spending money on more sticks.

[–] tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If they announced they were building new schools and hospitals, someone would quite rightly point out the dire prison situation and complain that Labour isn't taking governance seriously.

Comments like yours are proof that Labour just can't do anything without moaning and resistance from Joe Public. This is yet another Tory catastrophe that Labour are forced to deal with.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sorry, no, let’s not pretend that this is a Tory issue. RAAC’s fatal flaw has been understood since the late 1980s. Labour had 13 years pretending to be for the NHS and Education x3. Did they rebuild the flawed schools and hospitals? Fuck did they. All UK governments have been a useless shower.