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[–] randomname@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Its very hard to beat the laptop form factor for productivity, but i wish there was more laptops out there with all the ports and hardware features i would like. too bad that some of them are only really available in obscure cyberdecks

[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I had one of the original netbooks (Asus EEEPC) back in the mid 2000s and I absolutely loved that thing. It was really great for bopping around college and travelling and such and had a killer battery life of like 8 or 10 hours or something like that. I used to run Win 7 dual booted with Ubuntu

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same had a little acer mini laptop in early 2000s I used it for notes, office apps, etc during college and between the battery life and how much more portable it was than the giant laptop I had at the time it was great, it ran BSD without any fuss too.

[–] aeroplayne@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

There's some talk somewhere else yesterday about how PC/laptop sales are tanking. It's mostly because people don't want "AI" computer.

Out of all the things in the past 20 years I miss - it was my netbook. It was amazing in college for me too.

Some say tablets killed the netbook, but there have been so many failed tablets that are not "iPad." It's a real gap in form factor and need

[–] dumples@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

I loved my EEEPC. I used while study abroad before smartphones were common. It was great to carry on me at all times. If I needed directions or to check on a website I would sit at a café / restaurant / bar to have a coffee / wine / beer to grab the wifi. It was great and small enough that I could carry it open if needed. I loved it. I thought it was the future until the iPad took over

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For awhile now I've been thinking about how nice it would be to have a something like a modern version of the Poqet PC.

The Poqet PC had a much nicer keyboard than the laptop in the article, and between the simplicity of its software and a very aggressive power management strategy (it actually paused the CPU between keystrokes) it could last for weeks to months on two AA batteries.

Imagine a modern device with the same design sensibilities. Instead of an LCD screen you could use e-ink. For both power efficiency, and because the e-ink wouldn't be well suited to full motion video, the user interface could be text/keyboard based (though you could still have it display static images). Instead of the 8088 CPU you could use something like an ARM Cortex M0+, which would give you roughly the same amount of power as a 486 for less than 1/100th the wattage of the 8088. Instead of the AAs you could use sodium ion or lithium titanate cells for their wide temperature range and high cycle life (and although these chemistries have a lower energy density than lithium ion, they'd probably still give you more capacity than the AAs, especially if you used prismatic cells). With such a miniscule power consumption you could keep a device like that charged with a solar panel built into the case.

Such a device would have very little computing power compared to even a smartphone, but it could still be useful for a lot of things. Besides things like text editors or spreadsheets, you could replicate the functionality of the Wiki Reader and the Cybiko (imagine something like the Cybiko with LoRaWAN). You could maybe even keep a copy of Open Street Map on there, though I don't know how computationally expensive parsing its data format and displaying a map segment is.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There was a MacBook 12 inch like this that my business partner loved. It would last all day on a charge and he was building our app with it (Xcode and I think clang builds).

This was 10 years ago though.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eight inches ought to be enough for anyone!

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was enough for yo mom ohhhhhhhh!

j/k

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago

did her twice, huh?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I can't imagine many people would find this a pleasant device to do any actual work on. Maybe writers on the go, as the author says, though with a dubious keyboard layout even that is questionable.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haaaate typing on a laptop, layout not withstanding.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

I remember my 9 inch "netbook." That thing was dope.

I'm down to see this form factor make a comeback, personally.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

ASUS still makes netbooks.

I bought a little $200 model a few years ago. It weighs 9 oz.

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[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Urgh. Why do they always have to ramble about AI?

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I appreciated it, since he didn't do a legit stress test. Running a local llm is intensive on the hardware, and if it performs well on that, it'll likely perform well on most standard, non-useless tasks. So, I see that part as a makeshift stress test.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I remember having 10 inch netbook. It was okay for a while, but I would never want to go back to 10 inch display on a laptop. It's just horrible to use. 13 inches is ideal for me =)

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, at least it's 1920x1200 resolution. The old 10" netbooks mostly had 1024x600 which was terrible even by standards from 15 years ago.

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[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My eeePC still works. Installed a touch screen. The battery and power adapter is long gone but it keeps on chugging with a random 12V power supply.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

It looks pretty cute. But holy shit the mouse on that thing looks awful to use.

[–] AlbertScoot@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I used to travel a lot and didn't need a full sized laptop but did need something more powerful than a phone, this would have been perfect. I might get one anyways for transferring files on the go from my cameras.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It arguable it's not more powerful than a phone, but the keyboard would certainly be useful.

Phones are capable of a lot, but even something basic like a network ping is buried and they prefer you to install some crappy app with adverts and in app purchases, rather than let you use the PC in your pocket.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

but even something basic like a network ping is buried

Termux on Android solves a lot of that. But the touchscreen keyboard is definitely a tricky issue.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You all know what would be the most awesome thing for 90% of people? Fully developed Linux Phones + Lapdocks.

  • Just one device you carry all the time anyway
  • Super powerful phones make more sense
  • All data in one place without all sync stuff
  • Battery for daaays when docked
  • 2 displays
  • Super portable setup

Samsung screwed it up with Dex and other companies didn't want to create reasons not to buy more. Luckily devs working on projects like aftermarketOS do not give a fart about such things, and what's currently possible and being worked on is really promising.

Imagine all you need for general computing and light gaming / editing on the go on any display or TV you come across would be a USB-C dock and perhaps a small keyboard & mouse combo. I want that future.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 points 1 day ago

Samsung screwed it up with Dex

What do you mean by this? Dex is pretty awesome.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

That would be awesome. With legit Debian VMs and desktop mode coming to Android, I would love to see some serious development progress in that area. But we all know the big tech firms are gonna fuck it all up and neuter it.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I don't really see the point in low powered small devices like this, when something like an iPad/Galaxy Tab/eInk tablet is far better suited to the typical tasks you'd use them for.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I fucking hate touch screens personally, and will always prefer a good physical keyboard. Don't like mobile OSs either

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Keyboards exist and are widely supported for them.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I said a good keyboard. Plus the OSs are garbage

[–] Michal@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The devices you listed are either locked down, or are low powered devices themselves. None of them have a keyboard which is essential for linux.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (8 children)

we don't do things because we need to. we do things because we can.

playing doom on a iPod or Zune is completely awful. so why does it exist? because someone willed it into existence. why? because they could.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aperture Science. We do what we must, because we can. For the good of all of us. Except the ones who are dead.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Science isn't about "why" - it's about "why not?" Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much? In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired! Not you, test subject, you're doing fine. Yes, you. Box. Your stuff. Out the front door. Parking lot. Car. Goodbye.

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