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[–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Landlords are not greedy. They are inherently parasitic.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Adam Smith would agree with you.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

So someone is renting it out. It's all supply and demand?? I don't think landlord just leave their apartment empty unless someone comes with 1600 bucks rents.

In Denver here, it's hard to find apartment and 2 bed 2 bath close to boulder is 2500 bucks minimum. But people still want to stay close to boulder rather than living on cheaper town.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

My own mother has been talking about leaving town and rather then selling her house, her plan is to rent the house out survive off the rent she collects.

on its own that wouldnt be outrageous, if it werent for the fact my mother is extremely irresponsible with money and her lifestyle and bad habits are essentially going to be paid for by someone else.

its opened my eyes on landlords.. a lot of them dont work, and they dont even do the minimum for their tenants. they just expect to get paid.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hot take, but it's both. I make $40k in a major american city, and while it sucks I have a decent amount saved up, I live alone, and I've paid off all my debt (although I'll probably never be able to afford a home).

To be clear, I don't think anyone should have to cut the corners I do to live with financial security, and not everyone can (my partner is disabled, financial security is a pipe dream for them), but it isn't impossible for most people.

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

I make $40k in a major american city

I hope you have healthcare, because that sounds terrifying.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I paid $750 for a 2br 30 years ago. I pay $850 for a 3br now. I used to live outside San Francisco, now I'm in Ohio.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Not living in Ohio is worth at least $1k a month, so that tracks.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah places with really low rents, there's always a reason. But sometimes it's still an option.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Ha, I was just being snarky. I've never liked the few parts of Ohio I've been at, but I'm guessing there are some good places there.

I used to pay $1100 for a 3 bedroom apartment 10 years ago, now a 2 bedroom is $2600+

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Having taken the point of this post as it was intended, we can also recognize that learning how to manage your money is in fact always a good thing. Will basic hygiene undo generations of economics? No, but we certainly shouldn’t NOT teach young people to manage their money.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody on earth has suggested we stop teaching economic literacy. We should however stop pretending it is sufficient. We require systemic change.

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[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There's a famous Agatha Christie quote where she mentions that when she was young, she never imagined she'd be rich enough to own an automobile or poor enough to not have servants in her house. At some point, the affordability of one shot way past the other.

In my lifetime, I've seen huge cost increases in housing, and huge cost decreases in most technological products. When I was a kid, the normal TV size was something like 20 inches, and cost more than a month's rent for a typical apartment. In 1990, the average rent was $447, according to this. I found a Sears catalog from 1989 with a 25 inch TV selling for $549, and a 20 inch TV for $318. It would be hard to convince someone from 1990 that one day the cheapest, shittiest apartments in the poorest neighborhoods would rent for more than a 60-inch TV per month. Or that the typical ambulance ride costs something like a month's salary of a factory worker.

That's the real problem with old people's sense of money. The human tendency is to assume that all products cost the same multiple of those products prices in their early adulthood, so the luxury products of their youth remain the luxury products of today. These old people are stuck in some kind of Agatha Christie style of cost comparison, without the self awareness, and thinking that someone who owns a cell phone should be able to afford to buy a single family detached house, or couldn't possibly be bankrupted by a single Emergency Room visit.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Please stop blaming “old people”. It’s a divide and conquer tactic. I have grown children that are struggling with housing costs, and I absolutely understand why. Because greedy wealthy people/corporations are buying up all the property. If “old people” are pulling the avocado toast argument—they’re probably wealthy. Young wealthy people use the same argument. Something to think about regarding TVs. They were expensive back in the day, but they lasted 30+ years. ✌️ ☮️

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 12 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Please stop blaming “old people”.

I'm not "blaming" anyone. I'm pointing out the mechanism that causes a portion of old people to be out of touch on these things. They rely on their own experiences to draw inferences that don't actually apply to others.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It is absolutely OK to assign accurate blame and this basic misunderstanding absolutely afflicts people who aren't rich. The kind of person who bought their house when it's cheap and thinks the $2000 they pay in property taxes per year are murderous whilst ignoring the fact that folks around them are paying $2000 a month in rent.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago

I don’t know where you live, but property taxes are sky rocketing as well. And, thanks to global warming, house insurance is also sky rocketing. A lot of people who own their home are facing difficulties. There are communities in British Columbia where insurance companies refuse to offer fire coverage. There are communities in British Columbia where insurance companies refuse to offer flood insurance. These same insurance companies used to. You know why they won’t now?? Because the Oligarchs own the insurance companies, and they know what’s coming.

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[–] CulturedLout@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

We had to give up entirely on affording a house. There are ROOMS for rent at $1200 here. This used to be a low COL area until COVID. We had low infection rates so a ton of people moved here and we don't have the infrastructure to support them. We've been priced out of what living space we did have and since there's still the illusion it's cheap to live here, it's almost impossible to get a living wage.

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