Notice how the Israel issue is a lot quieter now despite being worse?
this post was submitted on 28 Apr 2025
466 points (98.9% liked)
World News
46177 readers
3028 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
And the world is just going to watch this genocide occur cause some people believe their race is superior to all and makes claims to lands 2000 years in the past.
Between the genocide in Gaza and what’s coming for the West Bank, Palestine might not exist in the next few years. Survivors scattered to the winds.
It’s incredibly sad, but honestly foreseeable. The right wing shift in the west is killing what little sympathy and press coverage there was.
The following should be taken as a bit of a ramble because I want to express this idea I have, and I don’t think it should be taken as any sort of attempt to correct or challenge what you’re saying because I don’t think what you’re saying is in any way incorrect.
I think the right wing shift is a mirage that is being perpetrated by corporate-owned media. That’s not to say that every media outlet is racist or is explicitly attempting to push a narrative, but I think that the large corporations in the U.S., at least, that own news media have a vested interest in not offending both monied and powerful interests. In that regard they are avoiding reporting on topics that will rally the public, or are outright changing how they report on certain topics.
Which is a lot of words to say that I think what we’re seeing is false consensus driven from the top down, rather than a ‘bottom up’ shift in opinion. I think many of the normal folks are ill-informed, or outright propagandized.
Doesn’t change the outcome, or the opinions held by so many, though… sigh
I’m fearful that the current US presidency is the final nail in Palestines coffin. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t expect them to hang on in time for the next election.
Next election?
In Soviet USA the President chooses the next election.
As much as I hated the Biden admin being pro Israel, too - at least they exercised some oversight. This is now gone and Netanyahu and his ilk can finally live out their darkest dreams.
That this sort of activity comes from the Jewish of all people, in the 21st century, is appalling.
But let's not forget Trumplon's part in all this. He is the big enabler here. Come judgement day (and I mean that very secularly) he will sit with Netanyahu. Well they might both be dead by then, but I have no doubt that history will not look kindly upon them.
We Palestinians will never be quiet when someone tries to whitewash Biden. This was his genocide, he made up seeing beheaded babies and used to justify slaughtering our babies, and he mocked us at every turn when we begged for a ceasefire.
Trump is only allowing Israel to continue the genocide, Biden's and the Democrats' genocide.
Protest voting the Democratic Party over Palestine was and remains utterly baffling to me.
Not to me.
Biden's and by extension Kamala's Israel policy was functionally identical to Trump's. The atrocities happening under Trump were happening under Biden. The only thing that's changed is now that Trump is in charge it's become acceptable for left leaning media to criticize that policy. Under Biden, outlets like MSNBC literally fired everyone with even an incling of pro Palestinian rhetoric. They framed genocide protestors as antisemites.
And it wasn't just Biden. Practically the entire DNC was 100% behind Israel.
The people protesting had friends and family killed by US muntins that the Biden admin never even hinted at threatening to reduce, even after Israel doing things like murdering aid workers. Even after blowing past every single "red line".
Go watch Antony Blinken talk about Israel. It's disgusting, but there really was no difference in rhetoric between him and the current Trump admin.
You don't understand the protest vote because, like Biden, you didn't look into or care about the protesters until it became something you could use to bitch about Trump or voters that didn't do what you wanted.
And yes, I voted for Kamala and told everyone to vote for her. Her campaign shat the bed by chasing right-wing voters and by ignoring the genocide their admin continued to aid. "At least I'm not the other guy" does not work or inspire votes.
Guess you can smugly smile about your moral superiority as they "finish the job" in the final Nakhba.
What do you mean, Kamala would have done the same thing!
- absolute fucking morons
Kamala would have done the same thing.
Democrats have never shown a willingness to challenge Israel on anything.
The "absolute fucking morons" are the ones who thought kamala would be any different.
Maybe Bernie would've done something different, but neo-liberals don't like him.
Kamala would have pushed for a plan to forcibly relocate everyone in Gaza to random surrounding countries so she could build a resort there? Kamala would have put an AI-generated video of Gazans living in luxury and idolizing gold statues of her? Deported student protesters on valid visas? Trump took a shit on your face and Gaza suffers more now, with zero hope whatsoever for any pushback from this fascist administration who applauds Israel's every step
Produce any media where she even hinted at having a different Gaza policy.
Israel started the genocide early after Oct 7, it's not escalated. They're already leveled over 80% of Gaza and destroyed every hospital and piece of infrastructure under Biden.
Tell me, how is that at all different from Trump's current policy?
Edit: for the down voters, I don't care. My point is made by you not being able to do anything other than down vote. You know I'm right and that makes you mad. No media exists which will absolve Kamala on Israel.
i don't remember hearing Harris say anything about bulldozing Gaza and building a beach resort
Here's one of her staffers explaining the difference, since the difference is so fucking hard for certain people to comprehend. It wasn't going to be fantastic, but I stand by my statement that only absolute fucking morons think they would have been the same. Because those people can't understand there are shades of awful or the difference between bad, and fucking gone.
That mentality is the textbook definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Voting for Kamala was attempting stem the bleeding, and people decided to cut a limb off instead. It's a shame that so many more people are going to suffer for their choice. And I really hope the naked fascism that these people directly contributed to via tacit support (thanks non voters!) isn't as bad as it will be, all because they wanted to play purity politics.
Former staffer that resigned because of the Gaza policy and was not involved in the 2024 election.
From the article, since you didn't bother to read.
Harris has not been the candidate many of us wanted. Her candidacy is historic, but she and the Democratic Party have failed to champion a truly progressive agenda — one needed not only to motivate her base, but to take on the right wing’s increasingly fascist policies and rhetoric. It has been devastating to see Harris refuse to break with Biden on Israel, adopt xenophobic talking points about immigration policy, and campaign alongside hawkish, pro-war Republicans.
And yeah, I 100% agree with the author. Her position is and remains mine. If you'd bother to read the article, you'd see she even supported the uncommitted movement, which guess who the protest voters were?
You are struggling to square away that I have empathy and understand why people couldn't stomach Harris. Stop calling people "morons" because they can't as easily justify genocide as you can.
Also do note that rather than addressing my challenge, you proved my point. Harris had identical Gaza policies to Biden and the only reason to vote for her was the fact that there were some pro Palestinian Democrats. You vote for her not because she's better in Gaza, but out of the hope that members of her caucus could moderate her position.
Stop calling people “morons” because they can’t as easily justify genocide as you can.
I think it's more regarding their lack of ability to see nuance. If your choices are genocide and genocide lite, yeah, they're both fucking bad, but maybe with lite, we can have more time to effect real change vs Trump, under whom we are guaranteed to see absolutely no change in a positive direction. I'd rather take 1% over 0%.
There is no genocide lite. It's just genocide with better marketing.
You're not wrong, by all means. Either way you also need to be doing anything you can like protesting in the streets, boycotting anything that supports Israel, and support organizations that help Palestine. But I'd rather buy time for there to still be a Gaza to fight for, personally.
That is some heavy copium your on buddy. You might want to step down on your doses before you do permanent damage.
My position has been rock solid through the entire election. Feel free to look through my past comments.
The only ones coping are you guys that are just becoming aware of genocide because Trump is also supporting it.
Keep getting mad and ignoring anyone who doesn't 100% carry water for Democrats. I'm sure that will continue to be electorially successful.
it's gone because news dont cover it
They haven't run out. They've been prevented from restocking.
"Because they were prevented from restocking, they are now out of food, but this condition need not continue if they are restocked.". Is that good enough?
damn, hopefully saudi arabia, qatar, dubai, oman, egypt, or any other trillion dollar petro states can step up and help out
maybe egypt needs to open the gates so they can let aid in?
What a dump take, instead of saying “we have to stop the war criminal, genocide entity” you saying “why no one taking them” like wtf at least read about the history or look over the map instead of making bland useless and irresponsible comments.
what are your thoughts on the sudan war?
Jordan once tried but they're unlikely to make that mistake again. Look up Black September for more info.
They don't give a shit. Anyone who shows any kind of help or sympathy will be pressured to take on what? 1.5 million people? No one in that area wants that kind injection of foreigners.
load more comments
(16 replies)