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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 189 points 3 days ago (24 children)

Is the proper response: Well shit.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

They don't even need to win elections, everyone was already discussing immigration because of propaganda & news (Messerattacke). They have set the agenda, this now is just more evidence of their success.

Sad.

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[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago

Well well.. here we go again. I’m ready to give up my life.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I read 50% of the men in Germany died in ww2 ….but yea cool Nazis what could go wrong.? Fuck around and find out I guess

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep nothing good ever comes from supporting facists

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[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (93 children)

And stil the state refuses to ban them, refuses to arrest and sentence their leaders.

It will be Weimar 2.0 with liberals being either too incompetent or too unwilling to stop fascism.

Fascism is not stopped at the podium or in parliament. It is stopped with bullets and bombs. The longer you wait the more bullets and bombs it will take and the more lives it will cost. We need a new, this time thorough, denazification.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Liberal does not mean leftist outside of the USA. Liberal actually means what is called libertarian in the USA.

[–] luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

in most contexts here ive heard "liberal" used to describe neoliberalism rather then leftism or libertarianism (though I know many conservatives in the US use it as a catch all for the left)

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm American and I use the term "liberal" specifically to refer to neoliberals. I'm probably in the minority, though, especially given Fox News and GamerGate calling everything they don't like "liberal".

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[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

bullets and bombs

I think it's enough to just do: arrests of leaders (and banning them from public speaking but for life) + breaking up the party + outlawing the party + banning people who decide to take up the mantle of/act as a declared proxy for the party and attempt to visibly pick up where they left off.

That last one I learned from my own country''s current situation: in Romania, a crazy far right candidate came out of nowhere (on the wings of illegal undisclosed campaign donations) to win the first round, and as soon as that happened our mainstream far right party's candidate started supporting him. Then they canceled the election because of the undisclosed donations (he literally declared 0 campaign spending!) so now, in the redo of the election, this other guy is basically running as his proxy and will likely try to appoint him PM if he wins.

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[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, why vote CDU if they are doing the same shit as AFD but are not as good at it?

[–] AgentRocket@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We don't know how good AFD would be at doing, what they claim. But none of the parties who have been in power over the last 20-30 years have done anything significant to improve the average workers economic status (e.g. make housing affordable, guarantee a reasonable pension, lessen the fear of unemployment, etc.). AFD claims, "if we get rid of the immigrants, everything will be better again" and people are believing it.

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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 109 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (23 children)

Plus two percent, a difference of one percent to second place and an error margin of two point five percent. Congrats.

Besides that, I really start to hate these reports. Weekly updates on the Sonntagsfrage are utterly lacking substance, fearmongering (to left leaning people) and reassurance (to AfD voters). Everything we do not need.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

AfD is using fascist manipulation using propaganda (always putting immigrants and immigrant attacks in the spotlight) to gain power and discriminate immigrants even more, causing more retaliation which in turn makes people give the AfD even more power.

In a tolerant society we should not be tolerant of such intolerance.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

*In an opinion poll

I mean lets not confuse an opinion poll with the truth. These things regularly get things a couple points off. In fact that’s the norm.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 31 points 2 days ago

That's what people have been saying for years and yet the AfD is already the second strongest in the last election...

[–] amelore@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

a couple points off

Yes so they're first or a close second, that's hardly better.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 74 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

In phone polls 4 years before the next election...

Dont get me wrong, this sucks, but its not what the germans actually voted for.

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