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Tesla co-founder previously suggested Taiwan should become a ‘special administrative zone’ in China

Elon Musk, the owner of X/Twitter, was called out on his platform by Taiwan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs after calling the island nation an "integral part of China" and insisting that he understands "China well."

Mr Musk made the comments on the "All In" podcast while answering a question about China and the future of his involvement with the nation.

During the interview, Mr Musk said "I think I understand China well," and notes that he's been there several times and has met with high-ranking officials.

He then turns his attention to Taiwan, and compares its relationship to China to Hawaii's relationship to the US, insisting it is "an integral part of China that is arbitrarily not part of China”.

That comparison is flawed in two major ways: first, Hawaii is not a contested region, but is unquestionably a US state with all the same powers and freedoms granted any other US state; second, Taiwan's assertion that it is its own state is not arbitrary, but instead a position it has held for decades.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Taiwan should simply not sell microchips to Muskian companies. Let him use 80s ex Soviet chips instead.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

As great of a plan as that sounds, companies like TSMC wouldn't dare to risk tanking their profits just to spite a single company run by an absolute dingleberry.

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

TSMC will do nicely with other companies (re: Apple, which gets most of its chips anyway). Threatening a leading manufacturer is silly when there’s plenty of other companies desperate for premiere hardware.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This guy really doesn't know when and how to shut up.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think people underestimating Musk is extremely dangerous.

Everyone underestimated Trump too and gave him 24/7 coverage because of how “stupid” he was.

Assume a powerful enemy is intelligent, or you’ll not understand how they got their power and will be perplexed as to how they grow it and how they will abuse it.

[–] vanontom@geddit.social 4 points 2 years ago

When relentless coverage of terrible people, and their insane words/actions, results in said people winning fair elections, I think the intelligence of the electorate might be the biggest problem.

But yes, that's beside the point, as is their growing mental illnesses and instability. The wealth/power they've been allowed to accumulate will always make them a danger/threat that should be taken seriously.

[–] RelativeArea0@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well...this musk person is a well paid shill so...uhm yeah

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do I block articles about him from showing up?

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You could try to Connect app (!lemmyconnect@lemmy.ca), which allows you to filter posts containing an arbitrary string or regex.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tesla co-founder? Since when?

Yeah my thoughts exactly. A lawsuit can't change the truth of the founders.

[–] 2d4_bears@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago

Extreme wealth and a love of authoritarianism, name a more iconic duo.

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Wait, what?!

Did that gigantic moron tell Taiwan is part of China???

[–] coffee@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

He knows who's buying 70% of his cars. And that's not Taiwan.

[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh COME ON. This guy is actively mocking Taiwan now, too??

Damn it, Muskrat

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So Elon is basically now acting like a tankie?

This is fucking hillarious.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Elon and false communists both benefit capitalism

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Didn't he recently say he does everything he can to prevent wars and the like?

Cause this is quite the exact opposite of trying to prevent wars.

[–] TechDiver@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Elon should become a special administrative prisoner in some chinese gulag

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago

why not the opposite?

[–] themagicaldude@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'm convinced that this guy gets off of getting his name on articles.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

By that logic it's also completely arbitrary that mainland China isn't part of Republic of China.

[–] stown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

How can they hit!?

[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why does this tool have an opinion about absolutely everything?

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Truly smart people are happy to give opinions about topics they have some knowledge of and tend to not weigh in on things they know they're ignorant about. Then there are people like Musk who seem to think they're an authority on absolutely fucking everything.

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People think this guy is an idiot yet there's not a single day he's not on the front page. Keep on fueling his popularity...

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I used to want a Tesla and loved catching SpaceX streams but this has all soured them for me.

[–] girthero@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Me too... To pour salt in your wound... Did you hear they're only published on X now?

To get over it, I just remind myself that there are many other talented people working for SpaceX and Gwynn Shotwell runs the day to day operations.