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[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 111 points 5 days ago (42 children)

Is it not obvious that this is the first half of a sentence and has been selectively edited to mislead?

I don't have video of the Montana rally, but Sanders has talked about this issue repeatedly at the Fight Oligarchy rallies, and here is what he said in LA:

“Israel has the right to defend itself against terrorism, but it does not have a right to go to war against the entire Palestinian people… to kill 50,000 people, injure over 100,000 and destroy the entire infrastructure.”

“And as bad as that is, Trump wants to expel the 2.2 million people in Gaza in order to create a playground for his billionaire friends,” Sanders added, referring to Trump’s proposal to “take ownership” of the Gaza strip. “That is beyond insane, and we will never, never let that happen.”

Certainly, there are many who disagree with this half of the sentence, and that's fine, but it should at least be presented with context.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Here is a link to the Montana Rally. The Israel statement begins at 1:19:00 for context.

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[–] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 34 points 5 days ago (36 children)

It does, but not the right to genocide. For FAR too long they've used his line to excuse crimes against humanity.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The argument is laid out in the article linked by InfustryStandard but the short of it is: As Gaza and rhe West Bank are Israeli-occupied territories, Israel doesn't have the right under international law to defend itself via military action against groups from those territories, unlike if the attack had come from—say—Lebanon. What it does have the right to do is engage in counterinsurgency effort while guaranteeing the Palestinian people's basic rights under international law. They're directly responsible for the lives of any and all civilians in the territories, and don't get to outsource that responsibility to Hamas.

[–] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 4 points 5 days ago

This is an interesting concept I hadn't heard before. I'm still pondering on it. Thanks for pointing it out.

In my country (USA) it would certainly be INSANE if USN started sending cruise missiles into Puerto Rico because some Puerto Ricans had done terror attacks.

[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Germany had a right to defend itself against Poland.

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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Is this at one of the fight oligarchy rallies? Why did that even come up?

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[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This some fox-news level clipped bullshit that takes things severely out of context.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'd just block OP. He only posts about Bernie and Israel, and not in good faith.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You might be interested in OPs post history:

"I a m terrorist ." source

Note, I used the equal level of honesty and editing for this quote of OP as OP did of the Sanders video in this thead, so OP should be fine with it.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

OP has a hate boner Bernie, and is either willfully ignorant or a shill. It's his second post in as many days about this, and literally only posts about Israel.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

Thank you Montana

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