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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 12 points 1 hour ago

Please tell me more about this free healthcare

[–] choab@discuss.online 4 points 1 hour ago
[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago

Pretty rich coming from a guy who lets trump take every power congress is supposed to hold. WTF does he even do at work? If we stopped paying him, would anything at all happen? Every republican seems like a whiny crybullying grifter to me.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The amount of dirty looks I got today casually playing slay the spire on my steam deck as a 41 year old man in the waiting room of a medical facility was pretty impressive.

[–] minyakcurry@monyet.cc 2 points 1 hour ago

I'd give you dirty looks as well if you weren't playing on A20 and fighting the heart

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Cmon they were just jelly u had a deck lol

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago

It's so sweet. I am bad at consoles and haven't owned one since Sonic made his debut but this thing rocks.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 32 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

free healthcare

does he think everyone in the US gets the same healthcare that congresspeople get?

[–] nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 28 minutes ago
[–] ellypony@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

My brother I am going to find every outlet of escapism possible to cope with the reality that your generation had a massive part in creating. Sorry 💅

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Theres nowhere in the country that has legitimate free healthcare, and only a small handful of states that have healthcare for those below the poverty line.

Where are these supposed young people just living it up off free healthcare?

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago

How do you not work and still have money for the Xbox subscription and steam sales?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 hours ago

Putting aside the, "Everyone but an idiot knows the poor must be kept poor, or they will never be productive" logic, it's also just dumb as shit to claim that "able-bodied young men" are going to be super motivated to get off the couch for the sake of health insurance - not even real healthcare, we're talking about paying hundreds of dollars a month so that if you get sick you can "only" be saddled with a very high deductible.

I fucking hate these people's guts. Something something Luigi's Mansion.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

He knows this is false. It's bait, that even i see this time. There really is nothing to see here

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago
[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I would prefer to work a job than to grind in a videogame. Unfortunately, Americans live in a nation where bad working conditions, low pay, heavy competition, instability, and ghost jobs makes job seeking unpalatable.

American capitalism is a cancer.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

True. Even the Nordic Model nations are backsliding from what I hear. It is why I think that we need to try an wholly artificial economic system, with rules and principles. Similar to a Constitution's framework, but focused on providing for the wellbeing of all citizens.

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world -4 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, isn't that kinda true? I have Medicare disability and Medicaid. I don't need to work for it. In fact, I need to not work to get it. I also get disability, so motivation for work is low.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago

And you paid into those programs yourself for a long time. Even if you had not paid, what if you had been born blind or without working legs or some other condition which severely limited the jobs available to you? The government should be using our taxes to help people who need it, regardless of their individual ability to pay into the system.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I mean maybe you do, but not being able to afford healthcare doesn't automatically mean you're just choosing to play video games all day. I know a guy who's in his second year of med school, does community health volunteering in his free time, and is on Medicaid with the intention of helping others on Medicaid when he finishes.

There's tons of children dependent on Medicaid, pregnant women, people with disabilities, people who work full time but still fall below the poverty line. There are so many different people that depend on Medicaid for different reasons. That's why cutting it to give wealthy people a tax cut is a disgusting thing to do.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If you're a member of this society and disabled, society should take care of you, otherwise it's a shite society.

The problem is our society is hostile towards the concept of... Society.

We've been poisoned to believe individualism is strength when it is weakness. We've been propagandized to resent Americans when they fall on hard times, angry when they draw on herp derp muh tax dollars so as not to die when they lose a job or get an illness.

The US has a profound, deep rooted culture problem. We're more a gaggle of wannabe rugged individuals undermining one another for oligarch crumbs than a society. That's why I want this place to collapse, as both parties want that hyperindivualism poison to keep running us, because only under that die alone, sink or swim, winners and losers race to the bottom national ethos can the owners continue to exploit us to death for ever moar profit that's still never enough.

It's brought nothing but misery, it's destroyed the social contract, and it's destroying the planet. If we do not end our worship of the individual and the pursuit of avarice, it will end us.

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't know... I think it's the phrase "government teet" that I don't like. I don't ever want to be portrayed as suckling at the government's teet. But yeah, I mean, they hardly give me anything anyways.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

That phrase is again just the perverse villainization of the social contract and being a society, and it ultimately only benefits those that want to extract wealth from societies instead of being a member of one.

I'm sorry that it sounds like you've internalized that capitalist aggression meant to keep our citizenry undermining one another instead of lifting one another up. If you're disabled, your society should be judged for failing to give you adequate aid.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 32 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So us person here. This free healthcare he speaks of is news to me.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

He gets free govt Healthcare and probably stays at home playing video games. It's all projection.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

With fascists every accusation is an admission

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You gotta be fucking kidding me. What sort of disconnected boomer statement is that!?

I hate using such terms as "boomer", but how else am I going to describe this?

I'm in Denmark, and I can just about get by on one job. I have friends from America struggling to make ends meet, and they're working TWO jobs!

So the fuck is this guy talking about!?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

I mean Republican assholes is a much better and more accurate adjective.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They're close to saying the quiet part out loud here. The reason (one of them) universal healthcare gets so much pushback is because an employer provided healthcare is a major way to keep the working class in their place.

I know so many people who have stayed in shitty abusive jobs because they can't lose the healthcare. Imagine if people could fuck off and decide to live a less resource intensive life? Would be terrible for the economy.

I'm pissed at the state of ~~healthcare~~ health business in this (u.s.) country, and I think you should be too!

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

I know so many people who have stayed in shitty abusive jobs because they can't lose the healthcare. Imagine if people could fuck off and decide to live a less resource intensive life? Would be terrible for the economy.

Theres people that was scared of losing their jobs that they didnt disobey managment and leave the factory before it was washed away in the helene floods... many died. But dont worry, the family got a $100 walmart giftcard for compensation...

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago

I worked my ass off for ten years and had shit healthcare and i lived hand-to-mouth. Never got ahead. Now that I'm unemployed I get the best healthcare I've ever had for free. I can be broke while working my ass off, or I can be broke and get benefits. Its a no brainer.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

this dude and his son monitor each other's devices to make sure they don't consume porn. i don't think he should be allowed to talk about literally anyone else's habits.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

this dude and his son monitor each other's main devices to make sure they ~~don't~~ have "proof" that they "don't" consume porn

anyone that obsessive is addicted and has at a minimum one burner porn tablet lmfao

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

how do i leech off of free healthcare that sounds really good

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 8 points 6 hours ago

Get elected to the US Congress. They don't do anything and get 6 figure salaries AND free Healthcare!

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

Become a congressperson, they get Medicare for life just like every other citizen should have but don't because Congress will grant it to themselves but not everyone else. If it's good enough for them it should be good enough to cover us.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

Yeah how does that work? How do I get my Healthcare to pay my mortgage?

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

Imagine living in a country that has turn to shit so long ago that you can't believe that it is possible for people can be motivated to work without resorting to the constant threat of being left to die if they don't.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 47 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Free Healthcare ? In Amerikkka ?

Since when ?

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 110 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Look up the book "Hell's Angel's" by Hunter Thompson.

There's a section in the book where he writes about the economics of being a hippie/biker/artist circa 1970.

A biker could work for six months as a Union stevedore and save up enough money to go on the road for two years. A part time waitress could support herself and her musician boyfreind.

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 35 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

That's what these guys grew up seeing and reading, huh? So they're trying to govern with assumptions that have not held true for decades.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 hours ago

No they are not governing. They are attempting to rule using rhetoric they know sticks with older generations. That's it. Just gotta keep people voting and they will say and do anything to get those votes.

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[–] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
  • No job, grind away the entire waking day with a low paying zero hours contract while filing job applications, No videogames, no relaxation, more stress, costs healthcare providers more

  • No job, spend some of the day working while filing job applications, Yes Videogames, relaxation, lower stress, costs healthcare providers less

Yet another case where if the politician seriously thought about the issue for just half a minute they'd realise their attitude makes no sense.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 37 points 12 hours ago

This is rich coming from someone that has literally never worked a days labor in their lives.

Young men as a cohort have a 90% employment rate.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 119 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Is this free healthcare you speak of in the room with us right now?

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[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 204 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

People are checking out because the middle class is non-existent. It doesn’t matter how hard you work - the the prospect of getting ahead, owning a home, retirement is out of reach for the vast majority of people.

People can work hard and stress themselves out or they can check out of the system and achieve largely the same result.

This is about the failures of late stage capitalism. To claim the issue is free healthcare is gaslighting.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Time for another round of:

“Turn on, tune in, drop out.”

[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Waaaay ahead of ya haha

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