You don't need to censor (nor should you) user handles here. I was going to post the uncensored version on this thread but I noticed there was an open admission LMAO so I made it its own post
this post was submitted on 14 Apr 2025
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they are right, but if you were to apply this logic to the Russian "people's republics" in Donbas they'd pop a vein
The PA creates the appearance of Palestinian autonomy, but in fact, much like the governments of the Bantustans of apartheid South Africa, it is simply an extension of the colonial state, a tool of counterinsurgency that is highly effective for the repression of local rebellions, because it makes the native population police itself. Fatah, which was a revolutionary movement in the early days of the armed struggle, is now mostly contained by the PA.
The Palestinian Authority: A Tool of Israeli Counterinsurgency - Adi Callai
Israel’s stabilization strategy, inspired by modern counterinsurgency doctrine, has rested on two pillars: the employment of pacification measures to co-opt Palestinians and reliance on the Palestinian Authority (PA) to police its population on Israel’s behalf. However, many Palestinians are now fighting back against this approach, while the PA’s eroding legitimacy has only hardened the population’s refusal to accept its restrictive methods.
It is presented here as it has been perceived by the Israeli policymakers and bureaucrats down the years. For them the PA was an integral and crucial component in the open-air prison model suggested in the 1990s, and one which the pragmatic elite of Israel still hopes to instate in the West Bank, at least in the near future.
- Ilan Pappe - The Biggest Prison on Earth
In appearance, the PA has all the trappings of a state, with ministries and a civil service, but Israel wields the real power, turning the tap on tax revenue, and controlling access to the shrinking territories – a status quo often compared with the Bantustans of apartheid-era South Africa.
The PA has actively helped Israel to keep tight control over the Palestinian population. Many perceive the body as a tool of the Israeli security apparatus, its US-trained forces not only targeting those suspected of planning attacks on Israelis, but also arresting union figures, journalists and critics on social media.
Israel relies on this division of the West Bank to foster the fiction that the Palestinian Authority is the entity primarily responsible for administering the life of the majority of Palestinians in the West Bank. In practice, however, Israel still retains control over the entire West Bank and all its residents.
- Conquer and Divide - B'TSelem
There's a lot of space between "the PA are ineffective and won't bring about the necessary change" and "Israeli mercenaries", especially in the context of Israel currently waging war against a population that can't meaningfully defend itself. When someone reads "Israeli mercenaries" devoid of other context, the PA is absolutely not the first thing that comes to mind.
Additionally, for so long as the PA is de facto responsible for providing services to the people of the West Bank, this:
Israel wields the real power, turning the tap on tax revenue
...is a great reason to give the PA some funding that is not dependent on Israel. The people of the West Bank will not be helped by their schools not having any funding
This. But I semi agree w/OP. The OP of lemmy.ml should have used “[] & ¹” to cite why the “Palestine Authority” is a mercenary front for the IDF.
It's really not hard to denote you changed the title to remove the propaganda, in the body.
I personal do it all the time.
Definitely, I agree with that. I'm also not supportive of changing article titles, at least when it comes to politics, additional context should be provided in the post or comments as needed.
It looks like that rule doesn't apply to that .ml community, which I personally don't agree with. I think it's more transparent to show how it's reported and point out, with sources, if anything is being reported disingenuously
It honestly depends how egregious the article’s headline is. And in lemmy, your title can & should be different than MSM's headlines. But the confusion was extremely wild even for MLists.
But 100% agreed with the context assertion. People should contextualize as much as possible to audiences, even to veterans.
Now we need a right wing/zionist tint on this for the trio.
"European union to aid terrorists with $1.8 billion funding for next 3 years"
"European Union sends $1.8 billion directly to Hamas. Trump will respond with more tariffs"
What is PA?
Palestinian Authority, the government of the West Bank
Pennsylvania
The Tankie triad needs to be totally defederated.
They are growing increasingly extreme and have started planning troll farm type operations to make posts on normal instances and boost them with alt accounts.
I suspect the admins Davel and Cowbee are part of it.
They are either just desperate tankies or literal troll farm employees. Either way they are repeating CCP propaganda straight from the playbook.
Hell yeah we do! Even just .world doing it would be a huge boon
Cowbee isn't an admin, but they are a major player id say. The big admins doing everything are Dessalines and Davel, and to a lesser extent cypherpunks
They are growing increasingly extreme and have started planning troll farm type operations to make posts on normal instances and boost them with alt accounts.
do you have any evidence of this
Yes but it's all CIA propaganda
I've just been noticing a significant uptick in tankie posts on .ee and SJW since the Russian asset US president took office. It coincides with the uptick of Chinese propaganda that has hit the entire internet since the inauguration. China is spreading a lot of propaganda right now to usurp the US as the world leader while they drop the ball.
I think they are using those instances to try to push their rhetoric since the triage is defederated from a lot of instances already and is already known to be problematic
If anything I've noticed it drop since the inauguration.
Or rather, since the election.
this isn't evidence. it's paranoid delusion.
They will just use alt accounts. Honestly I wouldn't care that much if they just kept the tankie comments and posts on dedicated servers but they keep trying to spread it.
Maybe, but they'll have to do it on other instances turf where they won't have the advantage of an aligned-admin of a large instance to lean on
On reflection I really ought to have made this with the guy from They Live