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In private discussions hours before China announced new retaliatory tariffs, the Trump administration warned Chinese officials against such a move, according to a source familiar with the discussions.

The Chinese were also told – once again – that Chinese President Xi Jinping should request a call with US President Donald Trump.

Instead, US officials woke up to news of increased Chinese tariffs and no request for a leader level call. Xi also made comments that only dug him in further.

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"For over 70 years, China's development has relied on self-reliance and hard work — never on handouts from others, and it is not afraid of any unjust suppression," Xi said according to state broadcaster CCTV during his meeting with the Spanish prime minister.

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[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 46 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

So we slapped them with ridiculous ~~sanctions~~ tariffs and are dropping hints that we are preparing for war, all while asking them to call? Trump acted in a similar way in his first term, and Biden didn't undo anything he did AFAIK, on top of slapping their cars with a 100% tariff. And we're starting off with Trump doing schoolyard bully negotiating tactics again...

I think China is sick of our bullshit.

[–] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago

on top of slapping their cars with a 100% tariff

Thanks democrats

[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 43 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, though...what is there to talk about? Trump's rationale for doing all this makes no logical sense. What good is it to negotiate with an idiot that doesn't even understand basic economics?

Just slap more tariffs on him and wait for him to either grow the fuck up, or back the fuck down. Either way, a "conversation" is not required.

[–] Lamprey@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago

The call is supposed to be Xi making a deal, even a worse deal than existed before. Trump just wants to come out ahead in optics

China is not playing with that so here we are. Trump will have a temper tantrum and things will cost more.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 days ago

Probably want Xi to call and pretend to beg for tariff cuts so Trump can get an easy exit route without looking bad.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They should never call and never lift the tariffs

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think their plan is to either let Trump admit he fucked it up and come crawling back or for the next president to do it. They're not bothering to back down now lol

[–] FactuallyUnscrupulou@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They have literally zero reason to make any effort at diplomacy. The rest of the would will gladly trade with them. If your business is full of happy customers why would you need to worry about a bratty Veruca Salt making demands?

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

The whole thing is so funny

Like oh no not 125% tariffs on soybeans and Bitcoin

Oh well I guess now you have 125% tariffs on shoes

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I watched the press conference this morning and whatsherface just repeated "don't retaliate and you'll be rewarded" and "you punch us we punch back harder." Why would anyone want to negotiate with the US unless they had to?

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 6 days ago

I'm pretty sure thats the only reason anyone ever did. The US used military and economic power to ensure folks negotiated.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

xigma-male trump-anguish

Absolutely incredible, happy seeing some good news for a change.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago

JDPON Don has finally awakened the Red Dragon.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

trump himself tweeted a few days ago he would not sit at the negotiation table with china.

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I never thought I'd see the day where I absolutely side with China's gov over my own...

Make drumpf look like the dumbass pathetic loser that he is!

[–] jack@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago

I never thought I'd see the day where I absolutely side with China's gov over my own...

Get used to it, the truth is they're the global good guys

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago

Your homework is to listen to every season of blowback

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago

Time to start reading theory (here's a Marxist-Leninist intro reading list I made) and listening to Blowback. Welcome to the team, comrade heart-sickle

[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago
[–] miz@hexbear.net 99 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Two senior White House officials tell CNN that the US will not reach out to China first. Trump has told his team that China must be the first to make the move, as the White House believes it is Beijing that has chosen to retaliate and further escalate the trade war.

lol this is the dumbest middle school drama bullshit

That stance has been conveyed to Beijing for roughly two months, with Trump’s team clearly telling Chinese officials that Xi should request a call with Trump. But Beijing has repeatedly refused to arrange a leader-level phone call, according to three sources familiar with the official communications.

One hurdle, Trump’s team believes, is Xi’s desire not to be seen as weak by making the first move and approaching the US for talks.

projection

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 74 points 1 week ago

Trump needs to realize that president Xi doesn't like him back and move on

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We're being ruled by children.

[–] Nay 16 points 6 days ago

The inmates have taken over the asylum

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 94 points 1 week ago (6 children)

America is finally about to learn who the new world leader is. I wonder how they'll take it?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 51 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mostly via racist whining, just like the brits. We're about to see a decades-long temper-tantrum.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago

We're about to see a decades-long temper-tantrum.

We'll probably see many people die because of it too sadness

[–] O__O@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago

Like a petulant child I should imagine

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

by continuing to call themselves the largest economy in the world in their news articles

[–] LargeAdultRedBook@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

By 2026, our top export will be copium.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Hey, I've seen this one 🇬🇧

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago

Most of them? Extremely poor whiney fits. This one? Celebration.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 57 points 1 week ago

Yessss please let this be America's Suez Crisis

[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dear Xi I wrote you but you still ain't callin'...

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

I left my email, my signal, and my red phone number at the bottom, you must notta got'em

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 64 points 1 week ago

China should make a bunch of fentanyl and send Trump a picture of it every day, where in each picture it gets closer to the U.S.

[–] Staines@hexbear.net 60 points 1 week ago

Allow the Americans to only talk with one mouth. More mouths just mean more ways to lie.

If the US has something to say, they should say it publicly. No more sweets lies in back channels while serving circus to the public.

Let them just be the circus and treat them as such.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 59 points 1 week ago

China just objectively isn't dependent on Marvelstani buyers.

Buffalolandian negotiators must know this.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Imagine being a high ranking chinese diplomat and the fucking americans keep e-mailing you for your leader to request a phone call with theirs. do you even reply anymore after 2 months or just ignore this?

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago

email caught in spam filter and discarded

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 65 points 1 week ago

I’ve emailed President Xi COUNTLESS times - very respectful, very classy messages - to open a dialogue. What do I get in return? A REPLY with a picture of a pig POOPING ON ITS OWN BALLS!!! Total disrespect. Is this how they treat world leaders now? NOT NICE! trump-anguish

[–] Sulv@hexbear.net 54 points 1 week ago

Never return to the Century of Humiliation. PRC-emblem

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 53 points 1 week ago

deal from strength or get crushed every time

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 47 points 1 week ago

The absolute arrogance of Amerikkkans

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