Its a shame that content creators don't truly own the content on YouTube and can simply opt out of DRM on their videos.
Also weird timing considering boycotting is a common topic right now.
A community for the discussion of topics surrounding DRM, Digital Rights Management.
All media that DRM can be applied on can be discussed here, for example books, movies, music or games.
Digital rights management (DRM) is the management of legal access to digital content. Various tools or technological protection measures, such as access control technologies, can restrict the use of proprietary hardware and copyrighted works. DRM technologies govern the use, modification and distribution of copyrighted works (e.g. software, multimedia content) and of systems that enforce these policies within devices. DRM technologies include licensing agreements and encryption.
Guides and useful tools
Quick and dirty way to rip an eBook from Android
2025 Guide for freeing books from Amazon (after D&T was removed)
Guide to Removing DRM From Amazon Kindle E-Books
Liberate your Kindle books before leaving Amazon (Tutorial)
How to setup Calibre to remove DRM from ebooks on Linux/Archive mirror
Guide on removing DRM from Kobo & Kindle eBooks (reddit mirror, Archive link)
Extracting content from an LCP "protected" ePub
DeDRM tools for eBooks: a plugin for Calibre for removing Adobe DRM, Obok etc.
Miscellaneous links
DRM - Frequently Asked Questions by DefectiveByDesign
Guide to DRM-Free Living by DefectiveByDesign
Its a shame that content creators don't truly own the content on YouTube and can simply opt out of DRM on their videos.
Also weird timing considering boycotting is a common topic right now.
Google is also experimenting with my not using YouTube any more.
I use youtube for mediocre garbage content to fill airspace. I don't need it. I would be better off without it. Don't push me google, because I'll fucking jump.
I already jumped off of a number of their other services, what's one more?
Funny enough they used to use their own video playback codec which had to be cracked in order for downloaders to work, so technically they've been doing DRM for a long long time.
If they do this my watching 2 hours a day with YouTube Premier is over. I will not subject myself to advertising.
I've almost completely quit youtube. Go ahead drive in that final nail.
Nice! C ya later then! 😂😂
How to kill YouTube in one stupid step.
I guess their CEO wasn't paying attention when the music industry got trounced by pirating.
Why would it kill YouTube?
Spotify has DRM for all of their songs, it has not killed music streaming.
What this actually does is make it formally illegal to rip YouTube videos (circumventing DRM is against DMCA). It's also a shot against youtube-dlp, which refuses to cross the line of cracking the DRM, which would be doable, but they don't want to on account of the legal issue.
Probably explains my looping 403 errors on SmartTube, but it eventually loads after several attempts.
Widevine L3 is trivial to decrypt at this point, there are even APIs on the web to decrypt it. Playready SL2000 is starting to get much easier to decrypt as well.
Forcing TEE based DRM (Widevine L1 and playready SL3000) would have the potential to cause too much collateral damage. They would almost certainly have to have exceptions some devices. If they intentionally break compatibility on browsers other than chrome, they would probably face antitrust issues.
So it is likely there will always either be a way to bypass or decrypt.
More than ever, people need to start using alternatives. I recommend Odysee. It has a couple issues that they're apparently working on but it's easily the best overall alternative.
Youtube Alternatives are only going to start taking off is that alternative is willing to pay content creators enough for them at least a liveable wage. And it needs to be stable Odysee's payment system relies on other people and tips are unstable at the best of times. A youtube alternative has got to have a better payment system than relying on strangers to tip the creator.
Considering how minimal income on YouTube actually is, I don't know if that's actually the main obstacle. There's a reason why even some big content creators have Patreon/Locals.
I've been thinking about using Nebula. Does anyone has any experience with it?
Been on Nebula (with curiosity stream) for 4 years. They're great. Good price, many of my favorite YT creators are also on Nebula, and their Nebula content either drops first, or has extended cuts and no ads ever.
They definitely have less channels and stuff overall, but a much larger percentage of their content is geared towards my interests. Also, I would say their minimum quality and production values are significantly higher than YT.
Its got some great creators, Ive been on there a couple of years. Only downside which some might be glad to be rid of is a lack of comments, and feedback. Without any interaction you're just watching videos; doesn't feel like a community or conversation.
Seems a shame because there are creators who appear to value the voice of the community on a platform where their audience has no voice.
There's a thread from five years ago where a founder Dave Wiskus said they had plans for a thread-like comments section. So it's weird; must not align with whatever else it is they're doing.
I'd say the same thing about dropout TV. How can we get in the comments without a comments section!?
I’m sitting here reading this as my spouse watches the stock YouTube client with ads on a TV that also has SmartTubeNext installed. Evidently, the ads are preferable over a less refined UX when you’re less neurodivergent and don’t jolt out of your seat whenever a stupid, loud ad comes on. As much as I’d like to say DRM will kill YouTube, objectively speaking, it probably won’t. What it may do instead is kill YouTube clients with better accessibility for neurodivergent folks like SmartTubeNext.
In a way this enshittificication is necessary to make the replacement possible. Whatever it will be.
I pay for Premium and if they actually do this I'll stop my subscription. Web DRM is stupid and I hate that other Streaming Services already have it. Apart from being another resource sink in browsers, it'll stop third party clients which I use and it also turns off Nvidia Shadowplay which is annoying as it doesn't automatically turn back on once the DRM content is no longer loaded.
This kills the YouTube. Maybe not quickly, but it will be a large nail in the coffin should they double down on it.